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  • Bronx2245
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    #41
    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

    Who cares about PPVs? Fury fans make out it's all about money now their man got scared and ran away to fight a MMA guy. If it was Joshua doing that you would be all over him.

    Fury only defended his titles TWICE his whole career. But that's ok - as long as he makes money right?
    If it's not about the money, why is Usyk demanding 50/50 for a fight in the UK?

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      #42
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      If it's not about the money, why is Usyk demanding 50/50 for a fight in the UK?
      He got fed up with Fury's demands after he accepted his pay conditions. Fury never wanted that fight.

      Maybe instead ask yourself why Usyk hasn't ducked anyone his whole career and is now fighting above his natural weight against bigger guys and then ask why Fury is fighting a guy from a different sport?

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        #43
        Originally posted by fifth_root

        You clearly sound as a Fury hater, not that you have to like him, but that makes you not very objective. Also as a Usyk fan, which again questions your objectivity. So remind yourself those words in a couple of years.

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        I was still a Fury fan up until the first Wilder fight. Schwarz (top-70) and Wallin (then rated no. 27 in the world) were too much. One day you will realize that blindly supporting someone who is taking you for a ride and lies all the time is the wrong move.

        I am not a Usyk fan either. I am a fan of the way the guy fights everyone though.

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          #44
          Reading through your posts on this topic, you are pro-Usyk. No point of further debating both of us.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Bob

            Don't be a plonka.

            Usyk has signed with the multi billionaire Saudis......so why would they even negotiate with Fury in London for far less money?

            "it's 5050" is a polite way of saying shove England when we can each negotiate our own larger purses individually with the camel jockeys.

            Fury apparently will be sent a one time offer by skills challenge, take it or leave it, still Fury will probably ruin it counting someone else's money.
            LOl, Saudi money is the new game in town. The interesting thing is: what happens when fighters are essentially told: "we do not care who is the top and who is the bottom w h or e" we will pay both of you 5 times and more the amount of money you could even imagine making anywhere else... Does one w h o r e say: "Humph! I am the top w h o r e! tak eit or leave it!" Or do both just work together and make a fortune?

            The w h o r e thing seems like a good analogy, more for the promoters than the fighters really... How greedy and venal will Satanic Bob be?

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              #46
              Originally posted by satiev1
              Fury is scared of usyk because stylistically he's a nightmare for fury. Fury isn't a brawler and outboxes you and he knows he can't outbox usyk
              I respectfully disagree. usyk is incredible but at the end of the day? Watch how Monzon handled Jose Naples... Being bigger, stronger, one guy coming up in weight, the other with a great jab... All Fury has to do is use his jab, fight off his back foot and catch Usyk coming in all day long. Fury is too smart to do anything else. He would fight Usyk like he did Klitchko.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

                He got fed up with Fury's demands after he accepted his pay conditions. Fury never wanted that fight.

                Maybe instead ask yourself why Usyk hasn't ducked anyone his whole career and is now fighting above his natural weight against bigger guys and then ask why Fury is fighting a guy from a different sport?
                The answer to both questions is the same: M-O-N-E-Y!

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                  #48
                  Krassyuk is always striking how ****** he is.

                  If the fight is in the UK, then he can't ask 50:50 and he knows it. Even if it is in Saudi Arabia, we saw they failed to send their supposedly no-negotiation great offers for December 2024. So what each fighter will eventually earn if there is a fight in Saudi Arabia we don't know. But they will probably pay more to Fury. I even think this Ngannou bout is just to give him the big amount he asks for, but in order not to make it apparent and also to promote PFL in which they are investing.

                  We saw Usyk didn't even fill Wroclaw Stadium at 100% regardless of the very low ticket price and the plenty of Ukrainians that are currently in Poland.

                  Here is what Usyk got paid for his first Joshua fight - true, he had no belts, but came up from the cruiserweight as a unified champion and had a shortcut to the title fight:

                  "The basic fight purse will see Anthony Joshua receiving $13.6 million and 60% of the PPV revenue, while Usyk will take $4.1 million and a 40% share. These are guaranteed figures whether the fighter wins or loses. The final amount that each fighter will take home and the lion's share of the profit will depend heavily on the pay-per-view figures. If broad estimates are to be believed, the final figures tend to hover around £50 million poundsfor Joshua and £15 million pounds for Usyk."

                  So Usyk practically agreed on 70:30. In his rematch with Joshua, he agreed on a 50:50 split where he was the champ and AJ was an ex-one with no belts, coming out from a defeat. You don't ask the same from Fury then.​
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by fifth_root
                    Krassyuk is always striking how ****** he is.

                    If the fight is in the UK, then he can't ask 50:50 and he knows it. Even if it is in Saudi Arabia, we saw they failed to send their supposedly no-negotiation great offers for December 2024. So what each fighter will eventually earn if there is a fight in Saudi Arabia we don't know. But they will probably pay more to Fury. I even think this Ngannou bout is just to give him the big amount he asks for, but in order not to make it apparent and also to promote PFL in which they are investing.

                    We saw Usyk didn't even fill Wroclaw Stadium at 100% regardless of the very low ticket price and the plenty of Ukrainians that are currently in Poland.

                    Here is what Usyk got paid for his first Joshua fight - true, he had no belts, but came up from the cruiserweight as a unified champion and had a shortcut to the title fight:

                    "The basic fight purse will see Anthony Joshua receiving $13.6 million and 60% of the PPV revenue, while Usyk will take $4.1 million and a 40% share. These are guaranteed figures whether the fighter wins or loses. The final amount that each fighter will take home and the lion's share of the profit will depend heavily on the pay-per-view figures. If broad estimates are to be believed, the final figures tend to hover around £50 million poundsfor Joshua and £15 million pounds for Usyk."

                    So Usyk practically agreed on 70:30. In his rematch with Joshua, he agreed on a 50:50 split where he was the champ and AJ was an ex-one with no belts, coming out from a defeat. You don't ask the same from Fury then.​
                    You don't negotiate the rematch clause AFTER the first fight

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                    • Roberto Vasquez
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      The answer to both questions is the same: M-O-N-E-Y!
                      Then the question is why support a guy who fights for money and not the fans?

                      A lot of enablers out there...

                      They can only do it because their fans still buy into the lame fights

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