Comments Thread For: Usyk Promoter on Fury: 'If He's Not [Ready] ... No Money In The World Can Buy His Consent'

[Roberto Vasquez]

I never assume I know the operation of another man's mental process, rather I look at evidence before me. You may well be correct, and if the first fight had even been close, I would sympathise with your POV. However, the first fight was not close... Fury dominated Vlad with little more than a jab. Under those conditions I believe the rematch was a perogative but not neccessary to establish who won.

I don't care about the fights Fury HASN'T fought lol! I am looking at the fights he has fought. I do not disagree about his actions, but they do not tell us in any way, shape, or form, about what would happen IF he had those fights.

Fury is an amazing talent... Wilder is the scariest of the bunch and Fury decided to hire his trainer to allow him to go toe to toe with him... That is amazing. It is amazing because it shows that Fury can fight in such a range, which is lacking these days, and a sign of greatness. Fury fought Wilder totally different than he fought Vlad... And different than he fought Chisora, that is range.

Fury has shown time and time again he gets up... and that he plans his fights and follows through with what his trainer informs him to do... Holyfield COULD be coachable like this... it is how he won one of the Rid**** Bowe fights and how he beat Tyson. Holyfield is the last heavyweight I saw as capable of folowing through on a plan, as Fury demonstrates. It shows an ability to learn, to exploit weakness in an opponent using a range of techical skills, Ultimately it means a fighter hypothetically could eliminate the advantage that certain styles have over them... For example (not comparing fury here!) The greatest, Sugar Ray Robinson... he could beat you with a big punch, counter punch you, box your ears off... Fury has shown the ability to use a range of approaches dependent on his opponent.

It is most unfortunate that he appears no longer interested in fighting at the premier level in the heavyweight division, something I do agree with you on. But if he can get himself in fighting shape, and fight Usyk... I would be very suprised if Usyk has any real success.

I saw Fury interviewed 2 weeks after Wlad fight and he said he was still feeling sick from the shots Wlad landed in the final round. Fury made it out that he had let Wlad land those shots to "see what it was like" but really Wlad had started to throw caution to the wind and Fury knew that was what would happen in the rematch.

The fights that Fury hasn't fought *are* very important. Because if he was as a good a boxer as people think - he would have taken those fights no problem. Imagine a Joshua who hadn't fought Usyk or Ruiz. Ruiz was a replacement for Miller and AJ could easily have found a way (maybe fight an MMA guys instead?) to avoid a risky Usyk. We might still be thinking Joshua was some kind of unbeatable guy. Well Fury is that guy - blantantly avoided Usyk and almost everyone else in the top-10 for the last 7 years. Let's not forget Fury sparred with a young Joshua and said how great he was on a radio interview straight afterwards. That spar seems to have sewed doubts in his mind...

Fury got up but he almost got stopped in 3rd Wilder fight. The one all you guys said he would win easy. Everyone gets up until that time they can't (even AJ has got up so far in his career). He could have been stopped first Wilder fight by a different ref. See Groves/Froch 1 when the ref stopped Groves standing up even

You seem to be a bit blinded by Fury. His record is poor. He could be everything you say he is - but given the fights he has avoided. More likely he is a very good boxer (and yes probably the best in the HW division) who picks his fights. He made a mistake picking Wilder because before the fight he said "Windmiller Wilder will never be able to hit me on the chin. He's a terrible boxer". Well Fury got out down by a "terrible boxer" 4 times. Fury is beatable. That is just a fact. Ask David Price

[billeau2]

I saw Fury interviewed 2 weeks after Wlad fight and he said he was still feeling sick from the shots Wlad landed in the final round. Fury made it out that he had let Wlad land those shots to "see what it was like" but really Wlad had started to throw caution to the wind and Fury knew that was what would happen in the rematch.

The fights that Fury hasn't fought *are* very important. Because if he was as a good a boxer as people think - he would have taken those fights no problem. Imagine a Joshua who hadn't fought Usyk or Ruiz. Ruiz was a replacement for Miller and AJ could easily have found a way (maybe fight an MMA guys instead?) to avoid a risky Usyk. We might still be thinking Joshua was some kind of unbeatable guy. Well Fury is that guy - blantantly avoided Usyk and almost everyone else in the top-10 for the last 7 years. Let's not forget Fury sparred with a young Joshua and said how great he was on a radio interview straight afterwards. That spar seems to have sewed doubts in his mind...

Fury got up but he almost got stopped in 3rd Wilder fight. The one all you guys said he would win easy. Everyone gets up until that time they can't (even AJ has got up so far in his career). He could have been stopped first Wilder fight by a different ref. See Groves/Froch 1 when the ref stopped Groves standing up even

You seem to be a bit blinded by Fury. His record is poor. He could be everything you say he is - but given the fights he has avoided. More likely he is a very good boxer (and yes probably the best in the HW division) who picks his fights. He made a mistake picking Wilder because before the fight he said "Windmiller Wilder will never be able to hit me on the chin. He's a terrible boxer". Well Fury got out down by a "terrible boxer" 4 times. Fury is beatable. That is just a fact. Ask David Price

people say many things... watch the fight for proof. And If you want to believe Fury was scared, so be it I don't want to change your mind. No... Here is where you are wrong and whether you accept it, or not, has to do with rules of logical discourse, so if you want to argue the following? take it up with Formal logic. Just as you cannot prove a negative, for example, "prove that God doesn't exist" you cannot reason a conclusion from fights not fought... And it has nothing to do with what people "think."

You seem to be a bit blinded to logical thinking and... it is obvious you have not read my posts, or do not understand them, if you think I give Fury a pass. How could his record be poor he never lost a fight. And his competition is about on a par with the rest of the division. I agreed Fury is avoiding fights presently, again if you read the post and not just assumed my position... My point of contention is that Fury has shown skills, and you cannot say "his skills are worse because of fights he did not have." If you are saying others could beat him, then that is a blanket statement and can only be false/true based on "fighting others." Fury dominated Wilder, yes he was dropped and he got up. Almost does not really count unless there is a pattern. The pattern was, Fury can be knocked down, as he was with Wilder, Cunningham... But he gets back up as he did with Wilder and Cunningham. And what is Usyk going to do? knock Fury out?

[Roberto Vasquez]

people say many things... watch the fight for proof. And If you want to believe Fury was scared, so be it I don't want to change your mind. No... Here is where you are wrong and whether you accept it, or not, has to do with rules of logical discourse, so if you want to argue the following? take it up with Formal logic. Just as you cannot prove a negative, for example, "prove that God doesn't exist" you cannot reason a conclusion from fights not fought... And it has nothing to do with what people "think."

You seem to be a bit blinded to logical thinking and... it is obvious you have not read my posts, or do not understand them, if you think I give Fury a pass. How could his record be poor he never lost a fight. And his competition is about on a par with the rest of the division. I agreed Fury is avoiding fights presently, again if you read the post and not just assumed my position... My point of contention is that Fury has shown skills, and you cannot say "his skills are worse because of fights he did not have." If you are saying others could beat him, then that is a blanket statement and can only be false/true based on "fighting others." Fury dominated Wilder, yes he was dropped and he got up. Almost does not really count unless there is a pattern. The pattern was, Fury can be knocked down, as he was with Wilder, Cunningham... But he gets back up as he did with Wilder and Cunningham. And what is Usyk going to do? knock Fury out?

But Fury failed to qualify for the olympics - he got beat by David Price. AJ won Gold. Seems when Fury's pure skills were put to the test they were found lacking. Everytime he fights someone who can can box (Wallin, Cunnigham) he struggles. He is good at beating guys like Chisora Wilder and Whyte who are very good fighters but not great boxers. There is a pattern of Fury avoiding boxers - even "Robotic" (sound familar?) David Price got avoided in the pros and "robotic bodybuilder" Joshua too. If they are so "robotic" why his he running? Should be easy wins.

There you go again - "Fury gets back up". That is a logical fallacy too. He has got up in the past - so he will get up every time... You don't seem to understand what happens when your brain hits the inside of your skull. Everytime is different. Willpower does not always get you back up and if you do get up and wobble around you are getting stopped by the ref. He would also lose 2 points if he is knocked down. Usyk could very well win on points.

[crimsonfalcon07]

There you go again - "Fury gets back up". That is a logical fallacy too. He has got up in the past - so he will get up every time... You don't seem to understand what happens when your brain hits the inside of your skull. Everytime is different. Willpower does not always get you back up and if you do get up and wobble around you are getting stopped by the ref. He would also lose 2 points if he is knocked down. Usyk could very well win on points.

This is a big deal here. My wife is a military neurologist and sees a ton of head injuries. She actually hates boxing, because it's like a bank account that has a limited amount in it, and you don't know what that amount is. Those head injuries never just go away. Sooner or later, you end up with permanent brain damage that prevents you from ever getting in the ring again. Fury may have already taken the definitive shot, for all we know. Getting dropped by Deontay Wilder 4 times isn't something you get over with rest and relaxation. Nerve damage tends to be permanent.

[billeau2]

But Fury failed to qualify for the olympics - he got beat by David Price. AJ won Gold. Seems when Fury's pure skills were put to the test they were found lacking. Everytime he fights someone who can can box (Wallin, Cunnigham) he struggles. He is good at beating guys like Chisora Wilder and Whyte who are very good fighters but not great boxers. There is a pattern of Fury avoiding boxers - even "Robotic" (sound familar?) David Price got avoided in the pros and "robotic bodybuilder" Joshua too. If they are so "robotic" why his he running? Should be easy wins.

There you go again - "Fury gets back up". That is a logical fallacy too. He has got up in the past - so he will get up every time... You don't seem to understand what happens when your brain hits the inside of your skull. Everytime is different. Willpower does not always get you back up and if you do get up and wobble around you are getting stopped by the ref. He would also lose 2 points if he is knocked down. Usyk could very well win on points.

[SN!PER]

Is Usyk ready for Fury's giant fists breaking his ribs? It's like a man versus a child.

[PRINCEKOOL]

But Fury failed to qualify for the olympics - he got beat by David Price. AJ won Gold. Seems when Fury's pure skills were put to the test they were found lacking. Everytime he fights someone who can can box (Wallin, Cunnigham) he struggles. He is good at beating guys like Chisora Wilder and Whyte who are very good fighters but not great boxers. There is a pattern of Fury avoiding boxers - even "Robotic" (sound familar?) David Price got avoided in the pros and "robotic bodybuilder" Joshua too. If they are so "robotic" why his he running? Should be easy wins.

There you go again - "Fury gets back up". That is a logical fallacy too. He has got up in the past - so he will get up every time... You don't seem to understand what happens when your brain hits the inside of your skull. Everytime is different. Willpower does not always get you back up and if you do get up and wobble around you are getting stopped by the ref. He would also lose 2 points if he is knocked down. Usyk could very well win on points.

Tyson Fury skill for skill has not actually fought at elite level skill for skill for 7-8 years vs Kiltschkko 'Wilder was a elite level challenge, but in terms of technical skill no boxing purist could rate Wilder as a elite level boxer'.

And I rate Wilder extremely highly, but those are the facts of his abilities. Fury in all honesty made that entire trilogy more difficult than it should of been 'Should of been if he was as great of a boxer as his hardcore fans claimed him to be'.

Take away Wilder's punching power, stylistically Wilder should of been a straight forward fight for Fury 'Not only did Fury on average out weigh Wilder by 40 pounds, he is also a better technical boxer skill for skill'.

Wilder was still able to win rounds vs Fury and deck him multiple times 'And has pushed him more than any other past opponents'. So ether Wilder is better boxer than many people estimate, or Fury boxing abilities are overrated'.

In my opinion I think Fury's pure boxing abilities skill for skill are overrated currently right now, because we have seen Wilder drop rounds to many fighters he faces 'Even in his last fight vs Helenius, Wilder was not winning that round before the knock-out'.

Fury did not win the first fight vs Wilder 'It was not a robbery, you don't win world titles by being backed up all night and decked twice once badly'. And as you stated 'Fury was nearly taken out in the 3rd fight vs Wilder. With the amount of unforced error's Fury was making in the third fight, in my opinion? Multiple past all-time great offensive fighters, would of taken Fury out'.

I have theorized that both Wilder and Fury, have potentially acted like a smoke screen for each others abilities.

We don't really know what Fury's current form is, none of his recent fights indicate that he is miles better than the other top-heavyweights 'Chisora & Whyte were stylistically easy fights for him, plus Chisora was semi-retired'.

Usyk and both Joshua have consistently fought at a higher level skill for skill than Fury for sometime now, and they have also taken on fights stylistically that were not easy for them.

If you check Fury's resume, it is a credit to his team but he has fought fighters who were stylistically the best fights for him 'Chisora is not a great boxer skill for skill, and he also struggles to move. Whyte is not a great boxer skill for skill and can hardly move, Wilder is not a great boxer skill for skill and Fury out weighed him by 40 + pounds on average'.

And it was also a injustice that Wladimir Kiltschko a Champion for close to 10 years was denied rematch vs Fury unfortunately 'Fury got the win vs Kiltschko and in terms of historical magnitude it was a great win. But the actual performance I think is a bit overrated, Kiltschko was not beaten up and he was backing Fury up all night'.

Much of Fury's current reputation is built up beating and fighting Deontay Wilder 'That was the win which transcend Fury's career'.

The Kiltschko win was also a great win in terms of historical magnitude, but it was not the win which built up his current reputation 'Fury's reputation back then was that he was a awkward yet clumsy fighter, The Riddler'.

Note: I personally rate Tyson Fury as the current number 1 Heavyweight, but only because he has the two best wins on his resume in terms of historical magnitude 'Fury has two mega wins on his resume, but outside of that he has mostly fought at domestic to high end European level' etc.

[billeau2]

Tyson Fury skill for skill has not actually fought at elite level skill for skill for 7-8 years vs Kiltschkko 'Wilder was a elite level challenge, but in terms of technical skill no boxing purist could rate Wilder as a elite level boxer'.

And I rate Wilder extremely highly, but those are the facts of his abilities. Fury in all honesty made that entire trilogy more difficult than it should of been 'Should of been if he was as great of a boxer as his hardcore fans claimed him to be'.

Take away Wilder's punching power, stylistically Wilder should of been a straight forward fight for Fury 'Not only did Fury on average out weigh Wilder by 40 pounds, he is also a better technical boxer skill for skill'.

Wilder was still able to win rounds vs Fury and deck him multiple times 'And has pushed him more than any other past opponents'. So ether Wilder is better boxer than many people estimate, or Fury boxing abilities are overrated'.

In my opinion I think Fury's pure boxing abilities skill for skill are overrated currently right now, because we have seen Wilder drop rounds to many fighters he faces 'Even in his last fight vs Helenius, Wilder was not winning that round before the knock-out'.

Fury did not win the first fight vs Wilder 'It was not a robbery, you don't win world titles by being backed up all night and decked twice once badly'. And as you stated 'Fury was nearly taken out in the 3rd fight vs Wilder. With the amount of unforced error's Fury was making in the third fight, in my opinion? Multiple past all-time great offensive fighters, would of taken Fury out'.

I have theorized that both Wilder and Fury, have potentially acted like a smoke screen for each others abilities.

We don't really know what Fury's current form is, none of his recent fights indicate that he is miles better than the other top-heavyweights 'Chisora & Whyte were stylistically easy fights for him, plus Chisora was semi-retired'.

Usyk and both Joshua have consistently fought at a higher level skill for skill than Fury for sometime now, and they have also taken on fights stylistically that were not easy for them.

If you check Fury's resume, it is a credit to his team but he has fought fighters who were stylistically the best fights for him 'Chisora is not a great boxer skill for skill, and he also struggles to move. Whyte is not a great boxer skill for skill and can hardly move, Wilder is not a great boxer skill for skill and Fury out weighed him by 40 + pounds on average'.

And it was also a injustice that Wladimir Kiltschko a Champion for close to 10 years was denied rematch vs Fury unfortunately 'Fury got the win vs Kiltschko and in terms of historical magnitude it was a great win. But the actual performance I think is a bit overrated, Kiltschko was not beaten up and he was backing Fury up all night'.

Much of Fury's current reputation is built up beating and fighting Deontay Wilder 'That was the win which transcend Fury's career'.

The Kiltschko win was also a great win in terms of historical magnitude, but it was not the win which built up his current reputation 'Fury's reputation back then was that he was a awkward yet clumsy fighter, The Riddler'.

Note: I personally rate Tyson Fury as the current number 1 Heavyweight, but only because he has the two best wins on his resume in terms of historical magnitude 'Fury has two mega wins on his resume, but outside of that he has mostly fought at domestic to high end European level' etc.

Ridiculous post... And a way to incite ignorance for good measure. Fury Right now as things stand is a dossier, I do not think even his fans deny it... But lets look at what you wrote:

1. Wilder. Wilder is the most feared opponent because he is a big puncher. Fury did not back up all night, he stopped Wilder, and even took Wilder's punch and got up, something no other heavyweight could yet do. Furthermore, he trained and then went toe to toe with Wilder! And knocked him out. You say "take away Wilder's punching power and he is" whatever you claim he is). How silly! No shiat sherlock! Thats what Wilder does! He is an ambush fighter, he waits and then uncorks and no one cept Fury has yet been able to deal with it, that is a fact. Take away my fat, and wrinkles and I am Erol Flyn! Seriously?

You misread how Wilder operates, it is not about weight, Wilder is really not a physical fighter... he is a puncher. He knows that during a fight he will get so many cracks at the apple... And Fury was able to neutralize that advantage, fighting Wilder's fight!

And yor example with Helinius is just ridiculous. Wilder attacked him and that was the end of the fight. Joshua, on the other hand struggled early and had to build confidence to beat an obviously inferior opponent. If you want to look at such details... I never would. your analysis.

2. Fury has fought many common opponents Joshua has fought... The only real skillful opponent that makes a difference is one, that is Usyk, just like Fury fought one, and that was Wilder... Joshua lost his fights, Fury won his... Joshua beat a common opponent by the hardest, an opponent that Fury beat easily (KIltsko). And while it would have been respectful to give a rematch to Vlad, he was beaten easily! And people who do not think so do not know how to watch skillful defensive fighting, off the back leg.

3. Stylistically? usyk is the only mobile heavyweight in the top echelon of the division.

This idea that Fury has not fought the top guys is a strawman. Fury is not invested in his career, that is a shame but to make pronouncements about Fury because he has not fought this, or that guy is ridiculous. Fury has not lost in the ring yet, that is a fact. He should fight Usyk, no question about it, but when he has shown up, his skills have been superior. He has shown the ability to fight off both, the back and front foot, find another heavyweight that does that! He has gone toe to toe with the best puncher around and the most feared fighter to face right now, essentially beating him at his own game, and he put a master class of boxing on to totally defuse Vlad K, a fighter who Joshua fought later and went life and death with.

People argue that Joshua would beat Wilder, and Fury and it is a ridiculous assertion. Maybe he would but people that know boxing would not bet a nickel that Joshua could even step in the ring with Wilder, much less beat him. And Fury, likewise.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Tyson Fury skill for skill has not actually fought at elite level skill for skill for 7-8 years vs Kiltschkko 'Wilder was a elite level challenge, but in terms of technical skill no boxing purist could rate Wilder as a elite level boxer'.

And I rate Wilder extremely highly, but those are the facts of his abilities. Fury in all honesty made that entire trilogy more difficult than it should of been 'Should of been if he was as great of a boxer as his hardcore fans claimed him to be'.

Take away Wilder's punching power, stylistically Wilder should of been a straight forward fight for Fury 'Not only did Fury on average out weigh Wilder by 40 pounds, he is also a better technical boxer skill for skill'.

Wilder was still able to win rounds vs Fury and deck him multiple times 'And has pushed him more than any other past opponents'. So ether Wilder is better boxer than many people estimate, or Fury boxing abilities are overrated'.

In my opinion I think Fury's pure boxing abilities skill for skill are overrated currently right now, because we have seen Wilder drop rounds to many fighters he faces 'Even in his last fight vs Helenius, Wilder was not winning that round before the knock-out'.

Fury did not win the first fight vs Wilder 'It was not a robbery, you don't win world titles by being backed up all night and decked twice once badly'. And as you stated 'Fury was nearly taken out in the 3rd fight vs Wilder. With the amount of unforced error's Fury was making in the third fight, in my opinion? Multiple past all-time great offensive fighters, would of taken Fury out'.

I have theorized that both Wilder and Fury, have potentially acted like a smoke screen for each others abilities.

We don't really know what Fury's current form is, none of his recent fights indicate that he is miles better than the other top-heavyweights 'Chisora & Whyte were stylistically easy fights for him, plus Chisora was semi-retired'.

Usyk and both Joshua have consistently fought at a higher level skill for skill than Fury for sometime now, and they have also taken on fights stylistically that were not easy for them.

If you check Fury's resume, it is a credit to his team but he has fought fighters who were stylistically the best fights for him 'Chisora is not a great boxer skill for skill, and he also struggles to move. Whyte is not a great boxer skill for skill and can hardly move, Wilder is not a great boxer skill for skill and Fury out weighed him by 40 + pounds on average'.

And it was also a injustice that Wladimir Kiltschko a Champion for close to 10 years was denied rematch vs Fury unfortunately 'Fury got the win vs Kiltschko and in terms of historical magnitude it was a great win. But the actual performance I think is a bit overrated, Kiltschko was not beaten up and he was backing Fury up all night'.

Much of Fury's current reputation is built up beating and fighting Deontay Wilder 'That was the win which transcend Fury's career'.

The Kiltschko win was also a great win in terms of historical magnitude, but it was not the win which built up his current reputation 'Fury's reputation back then was that he was a awkward yet clumsy fighter, The Riddler'.

Note: I personally rate Tyson Fury as the current number 1 Heavyweight, but only because he has the two best wins on his resume in terms of historical magnitude 'Fury has two mega wins on his resume, but outside of that he has mostly fought at domestic to high end European level' etc.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. Wilder and Fury *ARE* both largely untested against top-10 guys. And the fact that they avoid anyone in the top-10 is a clear sign they may have struggled in sparring against similar level guys. Whyte did say he knocked Fury down in sparring. That doesn't really mean anything but I'm sure he had moments of success and Whyte is slow. Back then (when they sparred)Fury would say what a great fighter Whyte was and he backed him to beat AJ.

This doesn't mean Fury and Wilder aren't the elite fighters people say they are - just that su****iously they have never proved it in the ring and both are nearing retirement. Wilder never even fights anymore. Really does seem scared to lose

Also to be fair I think Wilder is underrated in some ways - he's an ok boxer but he is very fast for a HW and is very good at landing his right hand - on anyone. That combination of huge power *and* speed is deadly. I think he is a lot better boxer than he appears.

If you look at the pound for pound top-10 you def won't find Fury in there but you will find Usyk.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I agree with pretty much everything you said. Wilder and Fury *ARE* both largely untested against top-10 guys. And the fact that they avoid anyone in the top-10 is a clear sign they may have struggled in sparring against similar level guys. Whyte did say he knocked Fury down in sparring. That doesn't really mean anything but I'm sure he had moments of success and Whyte is slow. Back then (when they sparred)Fury would say what a great fighter Whyte was and he backed him to beat AJ.

This doesn't mean Fury and Wilder aren't the elite fighters people say they are - just that su****iously they have never proved it in the ring and both are nearing retirement. Wilder never even fights anymore. Really does seem scared to lose

Also to be fair I think Wilder is underrated in some ways - he's an ok boxer but he is very fast for a HW and is very good at landing his right hand - on anyone. That combination of huge power *and* speed is deadly. I think he is a lot better boxer than he appears.

If you look at the pound for pound top-10 you def won't find Fury in there but you will find Usyk.

I rate Wilder as a greater World Champion than Tyson Fury both subjectively and objectively 'Wilder gave it his best go as the WBC World Heavyweight Champion, he made 10 defenses of his titles. And he also fought until there was no more both inside and outside the ring to recapture his titles'.

Being a Champion is not just about winning and defending titles, it is also about when the time comes, when your reign is under threat? How are you going to behave in that moment ? Both Wilder and Joshua whenever they were beaten immediately demanded rematches 'Joshua avenged his loss to Ruiz Junior, and he had a improved effort vs Usyk II. And Wilder pushed Fury more than any other fighter to date'.

Wilder had to fight legally outside the ring to force a rematch with Fury, all the while people mocked him 'And just wanted him to go away'.

Since the Wilder trilogy, there is definitive evidence that Tyson Fury 'Maybe due to the trauma from those fights, is no longer enthusiastic at the prospect of fighting his nearest competition or other top level Heavyweights'.

The lack of experience that Fury has at World and Elite level skill for skill, is something his hardcore fans like to passively ignore. In this game? Me and you both know mate that, at some point inexperience and a fighters true form will show up inside the ring.

And that is why I have highlighted and always been dubious of Fury's behavior as Champion 'The facts of his reign are, that he does not want to take on all comers or fight his nearest competition'.

Tyson Fury's behaviors, implicate this message to me 'And I am not claiming it to be a definitive fact, but I have theorized that both Fury & Wilder acted like a smoke screen for each others abilities' But I mainly concern this theory with Tyson Fury's current form. Because Wilder did make 10 defenses of his WBC World Heavyweight title, and I believe most boxing analyst know what type of fighter he is 'Wilder is a game yet crude, aggressive determined fighter with serious power' nobody is really trying to make Wilder out to be a fighter he is not.

Note: Tyson Fury is great fighter, but I don't rate him as a great Champion 'And I don't really need to expand on that point, because we are witnessing the Fury reign right now. And since capturing the WBC World Heavyweight Championship from Wilder, Fury for whatever reasons seems to not want to take on all comers or fight his nearest competition' etc.