Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury on Fights With Anthony Joshua, Oleksandr Usyk: 'I'm Not Optimistic'

[mrbig1]

Why hasn't the WBC stripped Fury of his title? They have stripped championship for far less.

[Smash]

the fury flutters, he messed up bigtime the vlad rematch, he had to be threatened with court by wilder to get his 3rd fight & now hes at it again, ill bet hes even got the saudis scratching their heads wondering what he will do

[Raggamuffin]

Neither Joshua or Usyk can **** with Fury. Usyk is too small and Joshua doesn’t have the skills to compete. He’s the true champion. The fact that these fights haven’t happened is all Fury’s fault huh, lmao. None of you think that Joshua or Usyk can truly win lmao. But you have fodder for Fury and your using it lmao….

[Raggamuffin]

Let's remind ourselves : Fury has fought TWO top-10 Heavyweights in 7 years. Usyk and Joshua fight top-10 guys all the time.... Says it all.

Fury also has a loss to David Price. That was another fight he failed to make in the pros while calling Price "robotic" every chance he got. Hmm.. he also calls Joshua robotic while running in the opposite direction...

Fury also has a 2 year PED ban. Doesn't seem like something someone who is confident in their ability would do


BUT I have to give huge credit to him for taking on Ngannou in MMA. Fury has no experience in this sport at all! It is really a brave thing to do. Imagine if they were fighting a boxing match. He would have really looked like a coward then. Def the right move to make it MMA

Make sure that when you say that Fury lost…it was in the amateurs to that bum ass Price. Clarify yourself. Don’t try that fast one ****, lmao. Fury is UNDEFEATED…!!!

[Raggamuffin]

Let me clarify something here. Daniel Dubois is a ****en bum.

[Toffee]

How does Fury tick the same boxes?

Fury’s beat the #1 ranked Heavyweight on two separate occasions for a start.

Usyk has never done that once, and he’s only ever beaten 1 ranked fighter in general in HW.

You know all this.

Great win against Klitschko, but big question marks about Klitschko at that time and Fury never allowed us to find out what might night happen in an obligated rematch through his 'issues' which saw him banned and unfit to fight.

I can't ever rate Wilder as #1 based on his opposition. Good win, though it's very questionable how good. Then you've got Whyte who is a decent win. That's it.

Usyk has done it against all comers at Cruiser. He's got a great win over Joshua and he did actually run it back to leave no doubt.

Both are pretty underwhelming long term claims for 'best of the era' without fighting each other or even top level common opponents (ie Joshua, Wilder, maybe Ruiz).

But Fury is fighting a 37 year old debutant. It's embarrassing. If a drug banned fight dodger is the best of the era, then it's not really worth discussing.

[SweetPbfAli]

Serious question. What exactly is it that Fury wants at this point?

[bullydean]

Good Lord! Fury is 35?
I'm guessing Fury is past his prime which is why he's making the biggest fights he can get before losing his belt or losing in a humiliating manner.

[IronDanHamza]

You know all this.

Great win against Klitschko, but big question marks about Klitschko at that time and Fury never allowed us to find out what might night happen in an obligated rematch through his 'issues' which saw him banned and unfit to fight.

I can't ever rate Wilder as #1 based on his opposition. Good win, though it's very questionable how good. Then you've got Whyte who is a decent win. That's it.

Usyk has done it against all comers at Cruiser. He's got a great win over Joshua and he did actually run it back to leave no doubt.

Both are pretty underwhelming long term claims for 'best of the era' without fighting each other or even top level common opponents (ie Joshua, Wilder, maybe Ruiz).

But Fury is fighting a 37 year old debutant. It's embarrassing. If a drug banned fight dodger is the best of the era, then it's not really worth discussing.

I’m going off where they where ranked by the ranking system.

Fury has two wins over #1 ranked guys, Usyk zero.

Usyk’s second best win, a past prime Chisora in a fight he struggled in, Fury beat a prime version every round before stopping him.

There’s no argument Usyk is the HW of this era. He’s had 4 fights, against 1 ranked opponent.

[Toffee]

I’m going off where they where ranked by the ranking system.

Fury has two wins over #1 ranked guys, Usyk zero.

Usyk’s second best win, a past prime Chisora in a fight he struggled in, Fury beat a prime version every round before stopping him.

There’s no argument Usyk is the HW of this era. He’s had 4 fights, against 1 ranked opponent.

What ranking system?

Joshua beat Klitschko who had been ranked 2 by TBRB prior to Fury's retirement (and was ranked 2 behind Joshua after the fight) and then beat Ruiz who was ranked 1 by TBRB.

Based on his body of work, unification and number of defences... then he would be the HW of the era?

For what it's worth, I'm not actually arguing for Joshua. I'm arguing that there isn't one... or if there is then it's a completely pointless designation.