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Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
Not if you watched the Mcdermott fight. He's only undefeated because he never fights anyone. TWO top-10 opponents in last 7 years. That's why he ran from the Usyk fight. Got scared he was taking on someone who might beat him.
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Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
Not if you watched the Mcdermott fight. He's only undefeated because he never fights anyone. TWO top-10 opponents in last 7 years. That's why he ran from the Usyk fight. Got scared he was taking on someone who might beat him.
I personally still rate Fury as the ranked number 1 Heavyweight on merit. But Fury outside of the Kiltschko & Wilder fights is a fighter who predominately has fought at domestic to High End European level 'What you are saying is in part right'.
If Fury had consistently fought at World level like both Usyk & Joshua, he may have been beaten already or at least decked and ****** about even more.
Usyk is a former Undisputed Cruiser weight world Champion, so throughout his entire career he has fought more top-10 & top-5 fighters than Tyson Fury 'Usyk overall has fought at a higher level skill for skill in boxing'.
Tyson Fury has fought at Heavyweight is entire career, and has really only fought 3 Top-10 fighters.
Note: Fury is a great fighter, but really he is not proven as a great Champion 'I don't rate his current Heavyweight reign as of right now very highly'.
Wilder & Joshua reigns for differing reasons were arguably better. Wilder to his credit made 10 defenses of his Heavyweight title, and he gave everything both inside and outside of the ring to recapture those titles 'When the time come, when the going got real tough, Wilder behaved like a Champion even during a loss for me'.
And Joshua objectively during his reign consistently fought at World level 'Joshua fought Kiltschko in his 19th professional fight. Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua was also the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years' etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-23-2023, 10:46 PM.
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Originally posted by Raggamuffin View PostAnd how many top 10 heavies has Usyk beaten? There isn’t a soul out there now who can beat Fury. And saying that Fury “got scared” just discredits anything that you have to say on this matter.
Fury already has a ban for PEDs. We all know the guy isn't confident. He has history of avoiding David Price in the pros and Anthony Joshua (3 times now). Both guys he called "stiff robots"
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
Out of the top-4 fighters, Fury has been decked the most in his career. And even before the Wilder fight, anyone that has watched his entire career will know 'That he was being ****** about and decked even before he fought Deontay Wilder'.
I personally still rate Fury as the ranked number 1 Heavyweight on merit. But Fury outside of the Kiltschko & Wilder fights is a fighter who predominately has fought at domestic to High End European level 'What you are saying is in part right'.
If Fury had consistently fought at World level like both Usyk & Joshua, he may have been beaten already or at least decked and ****** about even more.
Usyk is a former Undisputed Cruiser weight world Champion, so throughout his entire career he has fought more top-10 & top-5 fighters than Tyson Fury 'Usyk overall has fought at a higher level skill for skill in boxing'.
Tyson Fury has fought at Heavyweight is entire career, and has really only fought 3 Top-10 fighters.
Note: Fury is a great fighter, but really he is not proven as a great Champion 'I don't rate his current Heavyweight reign as of right now very highly'.
Wilder & Joshua reigns for differing reasons were arguably better. Wilder to his credit made 10 defenses of his Heavyweight title, and he gave everything both inside and outside of the ring to recapture those titles 'When the time come, when the going got real tough, Wilder behaved like a Champion even during a loss for me'.
And Joshua objectively during his reign consistently fought at World level 'Joshua fought Kiltschko in his 19th professional fight. Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua was also the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years' etc.
For me Wilder shows a ton of guts inside the ring but out of it - he really does seem scared to fight people. (remember the Whyte fiasco and the A4 sheet of paper?) Even Fury was a pick at the time - big name, low risk, coming back from being overweight and retired. Wilder's best win is Ortiz. Ortiz is a good fighter but he was hyped up by Wilder's promoters. So people think he is better than he is. Best guy Ortiz beat was Jennings many years ago whe he was young. Now Wilder is fighting AJ when AJ looks very beatable.... not very brave.
AJ shows the most guts in terms of opponents fought (remembering he is 5 years behind Fury and Wilder in his career).
If you want a comparison for Wilder and Fury - look at Chisora and who he has fought. He destroys them both. So many top opponents for a guy who was probably never top-5 and is outside the top-10 now : Haye, Fury, Pulev, Whyte, Takam, Usyk, PArker, Helenius (when he was young), Klitchsko, Johnson. Fury never even fought the top guys from his era apart from Wlad
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Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
Usyk has only had 3 fights at HW.
Fury already has a ban for PEDs. We all know the guy isn't confident. He has history of avoiding David Price in the pros and Anthony Joshua (3 times now). Both guys he called "stiff robots"Ayo, rethink what you posted…type it…and read it before you hit “post reply” then get back to me. Price…!!!???
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Originally posted by wrecksracer View Postis there anybody left that still defends Fury? The Saudi money isn't enough?Originally posted by KrassyukWe initially agreed to 50-50, but then we made it clear that we’re ready to take 60-40, but the winner takes 60
If you think anybody =---> ANYBODY =---> in the sport of boxing is going to take that deal, you need to get your head checked for termites.
And then lmao =--->
Originally posted by UsykBut you will promise to donate to Ukraine immediately after the fight, £1million. And for every day of your delay you will pay one per cent from your purse to Ukrainian people. Deal?”
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Originally posted by Raggamuffin View PostWe all!!!???Ayo, rethink what you posted…type it…and read it before you hit “post reply” then get back to me. Price…!!!???
Btw why are you writing like you are a little kid?
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