Why Floyd couldn't...

[djtmal]

You picked Shane and Manny to beat Floyd.

Once Floyd beat both you decided it was cherry picking.

Youre just a sore loser pole smoker.

Lol. I didn't pick nobody to beat nobody.

Go pull where I made a prediction on either one of those fights.

Floyd was scared of both and wanted both to be shopworn before he made fights with them.

aka smart cherrypicking

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The way how it happened and comparing their fights against their archrivals, I started thinking whether Crawford was just better at cutting the ring than Floyd or maybe Pac had just better footwork than Spence did.

Crawford is just a better offensive fighter. Floyd never really knocked many guys out above 135.

[djtmal]

If Floyd vs Manny was a "pointless" fight as you say then why did Manny and his team try so hard to downplay the win? Why do so many Manny fans still refuse to admit that Floyd won easily? Since it was supposedly a pointless fight that didn't matter you'd think Pac and his fans would be able to swallow their egos and admit that Floyd was the better man.

It was pointless in that Floyd was past his prime, and Manny was an already ko'd shopworn fighter.

Why you cats can't see it was just an overmarinated money grab of a boxing match. Not even a fight.

Floyd and Manny's pockets won, and thats about it.

[djtmal]

Crawford is just a better offensive fighter. Floyd never really knocked many guys out above 135.

I don't buy that excuse.

He ko'd Ortiz with his hands down. He ko'd a past it Sharmba Mitchell with a body shot.
Elite guys he ko'd Hatton. Hatton ran into a left hook.
Manny ran into the ko shot from Marquez.
Not out of the realm of possibility that Floyd couldn't catch Manny coming in like Marquez did but he was too scared apparently.

[alexnation]

If Floyd vs Manny was a "pointless" fight as you say then why did Manny and his team try so hard to downplay the win? Why do so many Manny fans still refuse to admit that Floyd won easily? Since it was supposedly a pointless fight that didn't matter you'd think Pac and his fans would be able to swallow their egos and admit that Floyd was the better man.

I don't care how either team tried to paint that fight and outcome. True fans know that fight was pointless from the moment they announced it. It was a cash grab for both

[BoxingParadigm]

Bad comparison, all four fighters are significantly different. For example:

1. Bud is a KO artist at 147 and Floyd never was. 2. Bud was the puncher in the match up and Manny looked like the puncher against Floyd.
3. Bud is a switch hitter, and used that stance to take Spence's jab away with a power jab. This was just not how Floyd operated.
4. Spence went full throttle towards Bud and paid for it. People complain about Floyd, but Manny was very tame against Floyd and did not open up much that night.

I could go on, but I think I've made my point.

[Floyd is TBE]

I don't care how either team tried to paint that fight and outcome. True fans know that fight was pointless from the moment they announced it. It was a cash grab for both

It wasn't pointless. Floyd and Pacquiao were still easily better than every welterweight in the world. Pac went on to beat Thurman, didn't he? Obviously he was still a great fighter. Of course in hindsight, a lot of people want to pretend this fight didn't matter, but of course it did. That's why it sold over 4 million PPVS. A lot of people just didn't like the result of the fight so they've dedicated their lives to downplaying the outcome.

But let me ask you this: If the fight didn't matter, why did Top Rank work so hard to downplay Floyd's win? The fight didn't matter, right?

[The Big Dunn]

I don't care how either team tried to paint that fight and outcome. True fans know that fight was pointless from the moment they announced it. It was a cash grab for both

They were the top 2 p4p boxers in the world fighting to determine the best of that generation.

Please explain how that type of fight is pointless?

It looks like you wanted Manny to win, he lost very wide on the cards, as a result you are downplaying the significance because you didnt get the outcome you hoped for.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I don't buy that excuse.

He ko'd Ortiz with his hands down. He ko'd a past it Sharmba Mitchell with a body shot.
Elite guys he ko'd Hatton. Hatton ran into a left hook.
Manny ran into the ko shot from Marquez.
Not out of the realm of possibility that Floyd couldn't catch Manny coming in like Marquez did but he was too scared apparently.

It’s not an excuse it’s a reality.

[alexnation]

It wasn't pointless. Floyd and Pacquiao were still easily better than every welterweight in the world. Pac went on to beat Thurman, didn't he? Obviously he was still a great fighter. Of course in hindsight, a lot of people want to pretend this fight didn't matter, but of course it did. That's why it sold over 4 million PPVS. A lot of people just didn't like the result of the fight so they've dedicated their lives to downplaying the outcome.

But let me ask you this: If the fight didn't matter, why did Top Rank work so hard to downplay Floyd's win? The fight didn't matter, right?

Maybe because they wanted to do a rematch? Top Rank is in the business to make money, not to deliver quality fights. They are looking for the top sellers and were there bigger name in boxing than Manny and Floyd at the time? Nope