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  • #21
    You gotta give Charlo props for making 14 pounds jump win or lose.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

      Its ok for Canelo to jump from 160 to 175(15 pounds) to fight Kovalev, but not Charlo who is taller and longer than Canelo. 154 to 168(14 pound jump).

      Canelo is the same height as Teo, Devin, Shakur shorter than Ryan Garcia.
      Boxing has weight divisions. Not height divisions. If you believe Teo, Devin, Shakur, and Ryan Garcia are the same size as Canelo then you are an absolute moron.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by vladimvp View Post
        Funny that canelo not too long ago wanted to fight at cruiser weigh and now fight a two weigh class down.. of course he lost step and he knows that , what about the bivol fight ? I haven't heard a word about , a fight that will never happen.
        He talked about the Bivol fight after his pressers in NY and LA.

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        • #24
          Doesn't matter, people are always going to criticize no matter what happens or how good or not you look....

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          • #25
            Originally posted by macmike100 View Post
            Not really a Canelo fan but hopefully he'll knock the fxxx out of Jermell.
            not a fan of either fighter but i just hope they knock the hell outta each other i hope there are numerous knock downs some bad cuts and vision problems n a bit of controversy inside the ropes with the Ref n the ring doctor we know the judges will act funny that is what they always do with Saul.........

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            • #26
              Canelo haters:bitching,complaining,crying .Canelo :rich af,Hall of Fame,worried what haters think? Nah
              Last edited by TonyRespectful; 08-18-2023, 12:25 PM.

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              • #27
                Yeah, the fight with Mell won't add to the body of work that will get him into the Hall. The Benavides fight is what we all want to see. That's the one.

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                • #28
                  No worries,Saul will fight the winner of Benavidez Andrade .There’s no guarantee it’s going to be Benavidez!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
                    My Take:

                    A lot depends upon which Canelo shows up. I don't think Canelo lost a step but I have noticed that when Canelo fights movers, plan A has no head movement, no angles, just walk in with a high guard and **** it out. "Walk'em down" worked on Plant but not on Bivol. "Walkem down" will never work against a mover like Andrade or killer like Benavidez. Can you see where I'm going with this?
                    Plant is a mover too. And Canelo is a primarily a counterpuncher. That's a great style for a come forward fighter like Benavidez. Benavidez needs to be able to get off his combos, and if he's getting cracked when he does, it's not going to look like his usual fight. Think about why it didn't work on Bivol. It's not because Bivol is a mover. It's because he has elite timing and ring awareness. He was able to blind Canelo and Zurdo both with a quick off tempo combo any time he got near the ropes, and he was able to fight on the front foot against both of them at times too. Very different style from Andrade or Benavidez.

                    Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                    As for Charlo, I realize that in Castino #I Brian was able to sit in the pocket and bully the bully but in Castano #II, the pocket turned into a kill zone but how does that play out with a stronger faster Canelo? The question in my mind for Canelo is if the high guard "walk'em down" looks like a rerun of Bivol, can Canelo get back to his imitation of Floyd with head movement, sharp counters and angles on the inside?
                    Why do you think that happened in #2?

                    Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
                    For the record, I don't like the way this fight came about:
                    It's kind of shyty that Canelo got away with skipping over the same guys, in his same weight class for years. I understand boxing is a risk vs reward business but the sanctioning bodies shouldn't be. If the rules only apply when it's financially advantageous, what is the point of the belts?
                    Wasn't Canelo's fault. JERMALL Charlo was the one who's pulled out last minute. And Charlo is bigger than Canelo. It's amazing he can boil down to 154. It's also not Canelo's fault that the WBC and WBA are terrible about enforcing their own rules. They're like that with many other boxers as well.

                    Personally I do think it's a bit su****ious that NONE of the Reynoso guys have looked good since they all got busted for PEDs. Canelo hasn't gotten a stoppage in 3 fights and looked flat, hasn't been able to use the head movement that characterized a lot of his earlier fights that got him where he is now. Valdez has flat out struggled in every fight since then. Martinez got beat down by Chocolatito and then struggled in his last two fights against basic competition. And Reynoso hasn't been able to give his fighters any adjustments to make when the game plans didn't work out. I don't like to make accusations without evidence, but that's a heck of a pattern. 9 fights across 3 fighters that they just don't look like themselves.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post


                      Wasn't Canelo's fault. JERMALL Charlo was the one who's pulled out last minute.
                      Andrade and Benavdiez are PBC and already in 168. Since they are all lames including the Charlos to Canelo fanboys, why is he pulling up the 2 with ZERO fights at 168 and having the established 168s fight each other?

                      Here is a quiz:

                      What would be the odds on the books if it was Benavidez/Andrade vs Charlos?

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