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  • #11
    Originally posted by El_Mero View Post
    Impressed? He still fought scared. Helenious is a punching bag and made AJ bleed. At certain points AJ looked like a deer in headlights.

    Thought AJ looked better vs Ruiz in the 2nd
    when you get punched in the face you do bleed .....it’s called blood lol.....joshua has a problem with nose since the takam fight when he used his head....go check it and go look at all of Joshuas fights since then and your see besides the 2nd Ruiz fight it’s been a problem.....there is no such thing as fighting scared in the ring otherwise you wouldn’t get in there lol

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Benitobob View Post
      If Joshua takes an aggressive approach to this fight, he can and will knock Wilder out. But if he does that patient methodical type of fight that he just showed with Helienous, then he will get knock out. JUST SAYING!!!
      Aggressive b/c he is going to have to stay on Wilder's chest, put bodyweight on his chicken legs and beat him up similar to Fury. Wilder has shown he can shorten up the right and drop you but it doesn't have the same impact when he gets full extension (Spilka, Breazeale, etc). Either way I think AJ will have to survive some kind of drama as he did in the Vlad fight. It's just his mindset doesn't appear to be the same since the Ruiz fight. Sitting on outside with that soft jab is going to get him clocked real bad.

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      • #13
        Joshua is mentally soft. Wilder will crack him early and send a strong message

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        • #14
          Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
          when you get punched in the face you do bleed .....it’s called blood lol.....joshua has a problem with nose since the takam fight when he used his head....go check it and go look at all of Joshuas fights since then and your see besides the 2nd Ruiz fight it’s been a problem.....there is no such thing as fighting scared in the ring otherwise you wouldn’t get in there lol
          TF...another AJ defender? Lmao..yall come out the wood work now.

          As for me, I train and have fought in the ring kid.
          Johnny tocos in LV, Niavaronis in Northern Cal and at Title in SD.
          I travel for work so i get it in whenever i can.

          Wtf do u do?

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          • #15
            Last time he went top aggressive early against a last minute replacement he ended up getting dropped and stopped.

            The cautious approach against Helenius made sense as there's no margin for error at this point in his career. The big Finn is awkward and can crack, Kownacki learned that the wrong way when he went in too early for the kill against him.

            He ended the fight in brutal fashion and his fans will only remember the highlight reel KO. He will have his work cut out for him against Wilder but he needed to win this one first. Mission accomplished.

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            • #16
              That "brutal right hand" would not have stopped Wilder nor about 90% of the division.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

                TF...another AJ defender? Lmao..yall come out the wood work now.

                As for me, I train and have fought in the ring kid.
                Johnny tocos in LV, Niavaronis in Northern Cal and at Title in SD.
                I travel for work so i get it in whenever i can.

                Wtf do u do?
                what do I do ....I boxed for over 10 years and still train every now and then but work dictates to me when I can actually work out.
                if your a boxer you should dam well know there is no such thing as fighting scared and you should also know the more reckless you are the more likely you are at getting ironed out kid.......let’s see you make the judgement when joshua lines wilder and knocks him clean out.....joshua has fought and beaten much better fighters than helenius so you should know better......is he fighting to suit your taste probably not but make your final judgement when him wilder take on each other in the ring....if Joshua does knock wilder I expect to see you write a full apology and eat humble pie.....

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                  what do I do ....I boxed for over 10 years and still train every now and then but work dictates to me when I can actually work out.
                  if your a boxer you should dam well know there is no such thing as fighting scared and you should also know the more reckless you are the more likely you are at getting ironed out kid.......let’s see you make the judgement when joshua lines wilder and knocks him clean out.....joshua has fought and beaten much better fighters than helenius so you should know better......is he fighting to suit your taste probably not but make your final judgement when him wilder take on each other in the ring....if Joshua does knock wilder I expect to see you write a full apology and eat humble pie.....
                  1I've seen plenty of youngsters and grown men fight scared. He'll, I've seen pros fight scared. How you gonna say no fighters fight scared lol. Brun vs Tyson, the guy who walked out on Ajagba, the list goes on!

                  2. I've come back and ate crow if I wrongly called the iutcome of a fight, but majority of the time I end up with the right call.

                  Called the David/Plant fight, the Crawf/Spence fight too. But on the rare occasion when I've gotten it wrong, I have no issue eating crow, like my prediction of Valdez/Nav. That's what real men do.

                  On the other hand, what you gonna do if Wilder khtfo?
                  ....and I'm not a Wilder fan by any means....

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

                    I disagree (well, sort of). I think starting out too agrressive is a very risky approach to tackling Wilder. There is a fine line Joshua would need to walk, but I think patient and methodically breaking Wilder down is a decent path to victory -- it would just have to be applied much better than what we saw against Helenius. Some sort of conservative approach is needed in the first few rounds, trying to chip away at Wilder. He can up the aggression as Wilder begins to fatigue -- susceptability to fatigue being a major vulnerability we saw in the second and third fight against Fury.
                    Joshua outside of Uysk & Fury is the most proven pure boxer in the Heavyweight Divisions. Statistically it has been very difficult for most heavyweights to consistently take rounds off Joshua 'And Joshua has fought at the highest level consistently out of the Top-4 Heavyweights'.

                    Joshua has two comeback fights, won 95% of the rounds 'And achieved a knock-out vs Helenius'.

                    I have never bought into the narrative that Joshua has to wade forward vs Wilder. Many people have this belief because of how Fury fought Wilder.

                    Fury for me had to fight that way because he is innately a extremely clumsy fighter. Anyone who has watched Fury's entire career, and even his hardcore fans know this 'Fury is not technically correct, and fundamentally is not as sound as Joshua'.

                    You only have to look back at Wilder vs Fury III. Go and watch what lead to Wilder decking Fury 'It was a unforced error from Fury. Fury for no apparent reason early on in the fight, when really? He should not of been that fatigued. For some reason Fury decided to square up to Wilder, as if he was opening the front door to his house 'Then BAM, Wilder decked Fury'.

                    Wilder vs Fury III was a great fight in terms of passion and competition, but skill for skill it was not a high level fight. In my opinion many past all-time great offensive Heavyweights, would of potentially ****** Fury out 'In that fight, with the type of unforced errors he was making'.

                    Anthony Joshua in all of his fights, has never EVER produced that type of unforced error. I have watched Fury throughout his entire career, even when he was fighting under Peter Fury making a level of unforced errors 'That fighters with his reputation really should not be making, but he does make them'.

                    Note: So overall I agree, Joshua does not need to try and duplicate Fury's tactics. Joshua has to develop his own game plan, that utilize his attributes. Joshua has more punching power than Fury, and he is whether people like to admit it or not 'A very capable pure boxer, Joshua is the most proven pure boxer outside of Usyk and Fury' etc.











                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-18-2023, 05:10 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

                      1I've seen plenty of youngsters and grown men fight scared. He'll, I've seen pros fight scared. How you gonna say no fighters fight scared lol. Brun vs Tyson, the guy who walked out on Ajagba, the list goes on!

                      2. I've come back and ate crow if I wrongly called the iutcome of a fight, but majority of the time I end up with the right call.

                      Called the David/Plant fight, the Crawf/Spence fight too. But on the rare occasion when I've gotten it wrong, I have no issue eating crow, like my prediction of Valdez/Nav. That's what real men do.

                      On the other hand, what you gonna do if Wilder khtfo?
                      ....and I'm not a Wilder fan by any means....
                      yes and what happened to those fighters who fought scared according to you.....they got knocked out yes ? What was the result of joshua vs helenius ? Who won it ohh yes it was joshua who knocked him spark out.....that’s not fighting scared that’s just taking yourr time to figure somebody out .......should he have knocked out him out sooner yeah probably but he didn’t and that was that.
                      If wilder knocks out joshua like you I will admit was wrong......but your way off about joshua fighting scared plain and simple



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