Comments Thread For: Charlo Impressed By Joshua's Latest Win: He Did a Great Job

[The plunger man]

Joshua outside of Uysk & Fury is the most proven pure boxer in the Heavyweight Divisions. Statistically it has been very difficult for most heavyweights to consistently take rounds off Joshua 'And Joshua has fought at the highest level consistently out of the Top-4 Heavyweights'.

Joshua has two comeback fights, won 95% of the rounds 'And achieved a knock-out vs Helenius'.

I have never bought into the narrative that Joshua has to wade forward vs Wilder. Many people have this belief because of how Fury fought Wilder.

Fury for me had to fight that way because he is innately a extremely clumsy fighter. Anyone who has watched Fury's entire career, and even his hardcore fans know this 'Fury is not technically correct, and fundamentally is not as sound as Joshua'.

You only have to look back at Wilder vs Fury III. Go and watch what lead to Wilder decking Fury 'It was a unforced error from Fury. Fury for no apparent reason early on in the fight, when really? He should not of been that fatigued. For some reason Fury decided to square up to Wilder, as if he was opening the front door to his house 'Then BAM, Wilder decked Fury'.

Wilder vs Fury III was a great fight in terms of passion and competition, but skill for skill it was not a high level fight. In my opinion many past all-time great offensive Heavyweights, would of potentially ****** Fury out 'In that fight, with the type of unforced errors he was making'.

Anthony Joshua in all of his fights, has never EVER produced that type of unforced error. I have watched Fury throughout his entire career, even when he was fighting under Peter Fury making a level of unforced errors 'That fighters with his reputation really should not be making, but he does make them'.

Note: So overall I agree, Joshua does not need to try and duplicate Fury's tactics. Joshua has to develop his own game plan, that utilize his attributes. Joshua has more punching power than Fury, and he is whether people like to admit it or not 'A very capable pure boxer, Joshua is the most proven pure boxer outside of Usyk and Fury' etc.

very true post.....joshua is much more methodical and calculating when taking his opponent out and he’s never been a gung ho type of fighter rushing in guns blazing.....he has to walk a fine line against wilder because of his power it’s true but fundamentally wilder is an appalling heavyweight who has no technical ability what so ever ....has no jab , has no timing , has never one time put a combination of punches together and has literally no balance in that ring......joshua has that and he’s taken out top ten heavyweights with it.....besides Ortiz wilder has never beaten an elite heavyweight and Ortiz best win was Bryant Jennings after that his best win is Dave Allen just take that in for a moment.
wilder was getting outboxed by spilka untill he rushed at wilder in the corner in the late rounds and ran on to that right hand and spilka was then knocked out by Derek chisora.

joshua best option is use his superior technique .....the better boxer will almost always come out as the winner when that happens ....it’s why Ali beat foreman and Liston , it’s why lewis beat Tyson , it’s why holmes beat shavers and cooney.
I don’t even think wilders heart is in the game and I’m still very doubtful whether this fight gets agreed because wilder is notorious for turning fights down

[PRINCEKOOL]

very true post.....joshua is much more methodical and calculating when taking his opponent out and he’s never been a gung ho type of fighter rushing in guns blazing.....he has to walk a fine line against wilder because of his power it’s true but fundamentally wilder is an appalling heavyweight who has no technical ability what so ever ....has no jab , has no timing , has never one time put a combination of punches together and has literally no balance in that ring......joshua has that and he’s taken out top ten heavyweights with it.....besides Ortiz wilder has never beaten an elite heavyweight and Ortiz best win was Bryant Jennings after that his best win is Dave Allen just take that in for a moment.
wilder was getting outboxed by spilka untill he rushed at wilder in the corner in the late rounds and ran on to that right hand and spilka was then knocked out by Derek chisora.

joshua best option is use his superior technique .....the better boxer will almost always come out as the winner when that happens ....it’s why Ali beat foreman and Liston , it’s why lewis beat Tyson , it’s why holmes beat shavers and cooney.
I don’t even think wilders heart is in the game and I’m still very doubtful whether this fight gets agreed because wilder is notorious for turning fights down

Yes mate.

Wilder was also losing the round vs Helenius before the knock-out 'People like to passively look beyond that'.

All the people, well most the people saying that Joshua 'Should wade forward vs Wilder, on the sly just want to see Joshua get beat' That is honestly the way I read those kind of posts or views.

About 80% of Tyson Fury's reputation and legacy, is built off facing and beating Wilder. And because of this, I don't think Fury's hardcore fans want Wilder to face any other top level Heavyweights 'Just encase he gets beaten or ****** out'.

Personally I rate Wilder for what he is good at, great determination, awesome gameness and power 'Decisive with his attacks'. But Wilder offensively skill for skill, is not on the level of Mike Tyson. Wilder's power does not have that type of range or delivery, plus Mike Tyson skill for skill was pretty much elite or still world class at most stages of his career.

Wilder got to Fury, yes due to his own effort and determination. But really also because I think Fury is natural a very clumsy fighter 'And the boxing World would most likely become more aware of this, if he was to consistently fight top level fighters'.

Joshua does not quite have the inside game of Fury. Fury is messy and clumsy, but he will give it a good go on the inside 'And that is how he beat Wilder in the last two fights'.

Joshua seems to now be content with maximizing his mid to long range game 'So he will have the develop a game plan around that'.

It would help Joshua if at times, he could tie Wilder up on the inside and just walk him backwards or push him about. Yes Wilder has punching power, but his physical strength is one of his worst attributes 'He is prone to being pushed about. Wilder knows this at to his credit tried to improve this area of his game for his third fight with Fury'.

But right now it appears that Wilder, quite similar to Joshua 'Is embracing himself, Wilder is not trying to compete with these other Super Heavyweights in terms of mass' Wilder attempted that for the third with Fury, and although he was stronger physically 'Other area's of his game suffered'.

It is still a close fight, extremely dangerous for Joshua 'Joshua can take rounds of Wilder, he just has to do that for 12 rounds. And if the knock-out comes, then it will come' etc.

[Chucknorrisjnr21]

To be fair to Joshua he has what a week to prepare for the style of helenius and wilder had a full camp against helenius now I’m not saying aj would’ve got the ko in the 1st round if he had a full camp but the difference in styles changing from fighting whyte to fighting a defence first helenius must have ****ed with his head and the constant pressure aj is under is ridiculous however long the fight will be between aj n wilder it will be amazing as long as it lasts!!