Comments Thread For: Derek Chisora: I Called Dillian Whyte and Told Him - You're F-----!

[bullydean]

I think it's likely that Pacquaio took PED's but he certainly did not gain an "impossible amount of muscle".

He did gain an impossible amount of muscle. His build a.k.a height, frame, and physique would prevent him from reaching 147 lbs of lean muscle naturally.

[bullydean]

99% of pro athletes are probably on PEDs

Yeah im sure they are which is why only a few show signs of PED use.

[IronDanHamza]

He did gain an impossible amount of muscle. His build a.k.a height, frame, and physique would prevent him from reaching 147 lbs of lean muscle naturally.

So, you are saying that it's impossible 5 ft 5 man to reach 147 lbs naturally?

Because if you are, you are totally incorrect about that.

[bullydean]

So, you are saying that it's impossible 5 ft 5 man to reach 147 lbs naturally?

Because if you are, you are totally incorrect about that.

147 lbs of pure muscle, especially at 42 years old, is impossible

[IronDanHamza]

147 lbs of pure muscle, especially at 42 years old, is impossible

Well Pacquaio has never held 147 lbs of "pure muscle" for starters.

But even then, no, it's not impossible at all.

Pacquaio doesn't even have an overly impressive amount of muscle mass. The likely PED's I'd guess Pacquaio would be using would be to aiding him to throw 1000 punches a fight without getting tired.

His physique and muscle mass is not something that would ring alarm bells for possible PED use.

Bare in mind, Pacquaio was weighing around 143-147 in the ring for many years prior to moving up to 147.

[bullydean]

Well Pacquaio has never held 147 lbs of "pure muscle" for starters.

But even then, no, it's not impossible at all.

Pacquaio doesn't even have an overly impressive amount of muscle mass. The likely PED's I'd guess Pacquaio would be using would be to aiding him to throw 1000 punches a fight without getting tired.

His physique and muscle mass is not something that would ring alarm bells for possible PED use.

Bare in mind, Pacquaio was weighing around 143-147 in the ring for many years prior to moving up to 147.

Manny is mostly muscle. Manny is always very lean meaning he isn't gaining weight through muscle and fat like a lot of other fighters that move up multiple divisions.
Manny's weight gain throughout his career has been pure muscle. To be able to do this, especially in his late 30's and 40's is impossible without PEDs.

That combined with his growing head is further proof.

This combined with what you said about his punch output makes it probably that he takes HGH.

[IronDanHamza]

Manny is mostly muscle. Manny is always very lean meaning he isn't gaining weight through muscle and fat like a lot of other fighters that move up multiple divisions.
Manny's weight gain throughout his career has been pure muscle. To be able to do this, especially in his late 30's and 40's is impossible without PEDs.

That combined with his growing head is further proof.

This combined with what you said about his punch output makes it probably that he takes HGH.

Ehhh, no, HGH would not be a substance that contributes to punch output.

Ok but Pacquaio didn't gain drastic amount of muscle mass in his 30's and 40's so that's a moot point.

He gained muscle actually at a pretty reasonably slow rate, as like I mentioned, he was walking around and weighing in the ring at around 143-147 range from as low as when he was fighting at 130-135. The difference is as he was moving up in weight classes he was cutting less weight and then eventually no weight, when he was at 147.

So I think you might want to look into the subject matter that you're talking about in more detail, because you're wrong on many points here.

Manny Pacquaio being on PED's is not an outlandish opinion, but it's not because of his muscle mass. It's totally reasonable for a 5 foot 5 male athlete to be 147 lbs and have a body fat percentage of round 5% (If I had to guess).

To suggest that the muscle mass that Pacquaio held in his prime is impossible to attain is asinine. I can't begin to tell you how objectively incorrect that is.

[bullydean]

Ehhh, no, HGH would not be a substance that contributes to punch output.

Ok but Pacquaio didn't gain drastic amount of muscle mass in his 30's and 40's so that's a moot point.

He gained muscle actually at a pretty reasonably slow rate, as like I mentioned, he was walking around and weighing in the ring at around 143-147 range from as low as when he was fighting at 130-135. The difference is as he was moving up in weight classes he was cutting less weight and then eventually no weight, when he was at 147.

So I think you might want to look into the subject matter that you're talking about in more detail, because you're wrong on many points here.

Manny Pacquaio being on PED's is not an outlandish opinion, but it's not because of his muscle mass. It's totally reasonable for a 5 foot 5 male athlete to be 147 lbs and have a body fat percentage of round 5% (If I had to guess).

To suggest that the muscle mass that Pacquaio held in his prime is impossible to attain is asinine. I can't begin to tell you how objectively incorrect that is.

HGH also helps with stamina.

Gaining muscle isn't as simple as "you got it, now you keep it" lol
I would recommend you follow your own advice and look into the subject matter because you clearly don't know how the human body works.

[IronDanHamza]

HGH also helps with stamina.

Gaining muscle isn't as simple as "you got it, now you keep it" lol
I would recommend you follow your own advice and look into the subject matter because you clearly don't know how the human body works.

Funny.

I have been personally taking PED's for decades mate. I've trained people and built cycles for people, both personal based and sport specific based for decades also. I've forgotten more about this subject matter than you'll ever know.

I can tell you, categorically, that HGH would not be the go-to substance contributing to a higher punch output. It would in fact be one of the last substances I'd recommend for that.

You are totally misinformed on this subject. Do some research, come back, perhaps try again. You're objectively wrong on the majority of the assertions you've made here in regards to Pacquaio and his potential PED use.

[bullydean]

Funny.

I have been personally taking PED's for decades mate. I've trained people and built cycles for people, both personal based and sport specific based for decades also. I've forgotten more about this subject matter than you'll ever know.

I can tell you, categorically, that HGH would not be the go-to substance contributing to a higher punch output. It would in fact be one of the last substances I'd recommend for that.

You are totally misinformed on this subject. Do some research, come back, perhaps try again. You're objectively wrong on the majority of the assertions you've made here in regards to Pacquaio and his potential PED use.

That had nothing to do with muscle mass. Of course you don't know how the human body works when you're a PED user lol.
HGH helps with muscle growth and improves stamina. Then you have head growth which is a consequence of using HGH.
All I said is HGH seems highly likely to be the PED Manny uses and you couldn't prove me wrong.

The fact that you have ignored the facts and can't admit you're wrong really shows the insecurity you have. It makes sense why you have to use PEDs to make yourself feel better lol