Comments Thread For: Crawford Says He Doesn't Expect to Fight Above 154: 'There Are Weight Classes for a Reason'

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #61
    Originally posted by DeeMoney

    And yet people hate on rehydration clauses.

    If they are followed then they prevent fighters from dropping down to a weight class they dont belong in and make it similar to a same day weigh in.
    Re-hydration clauses are unnecessary but? I understand the point you are making.

    If a athlete or fighter is carbo-loading, that fighters will gain weight after a weigh in. That is why I personally don't like re-hydration clauses.

    Check weigh's are actually a method which? Deters fighters from weight draining, to the extremes that they may want to 'And of course the same day weigh in rule, made these methodologies extremely difficult' etc.

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    • hhh1200
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      #62
      Originally posted by lopetego
      Not everyone is a Pacquiao or Canelo, not everyone wants to chase greatness way above your actual weight class, against all odds

      Crawford's big and skilled enough to compete at 154 and above though, he just ain't about that life
      He could possibly do 160 if there is an old burn out like Kovalev with a belt and a double hydration clause. Canelo's 168 is really equal to Crawford 154 since he came from 135. He could beat Charlo and Tim who are better than the guys Canelo beat at 168 for his undisputed.

      Tim has windmill syndrome like Wilder. Crawford can punch between his punches. Charlo is the one messing things. He is vacating those other belts. Then, the circus will start all over for Crawford. PBC messed him up, having him wait 5 years to smoke Spence.
      Last edited by hhh1200; 08-05-2023, 06:56 AM.

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      • JakeTheBoxer
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        #63
        I must give him a credit for not trying to pick an easy belt at 160. I think Crawford beats these weak champs there.

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        • PRINCEKOOL
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          #64
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          They still dried out and gained a lot of weight with same day weigh-in as it was often very early in the morning allowing 12/14 hrs to pack on fluid weight, this is a false narrative that they didn't gain weight making it sound like they weighed in an hour before the contest.
          I have just posted a video of a experienced boxing trainer telling you 'That fighters never used to weight drain themselves, like they do today. Nowhere near. The toxic weight draining culture is a completely modern phenomenon'.

          Sugar Ray Robinson when he was fighting at Welterweight was not coming into the ring on fight at over 160 pounds 'That is what you are trying to claim'.

          It never used to happen. Fighters during the era when the same day weigh in rule was used, were not weight draining themselves to the extreme extent that we sometimes witness today.

          There is no documented history of these methodologies being used.

          If this was a big part of boxing history, why is it not covered in movies about old school fighters? If Sugar Ray Robinson, or Jake LaMotto were draining 10-20 pounds in weight before their weigh in's, why was this not documented in history? It was not documented because it never happened, weight draining to the extent that we witness today was not apart of boxing culture.

          Why are you insistent on making things up or altering history?

          Note: So according to you fighters in past eras, while training and fighting under the same day weigh in rule used to STILL weight drain themselves like some fighters do in this modern era. Fighters from past era's were most of the time more active than modern day fighters, were all droppings masses of weight before a weigh in 'To then regain that weight in a matter of hours'.

          This never happened mate, no boxing historian has ever made this claim 'No boxing historian has ever documented in detail the methods or stories of these fighters making weight'.

          So in all honesty mate, you need to stop making things up. The weight draining culture that we witnessed today, to the extremes that it happens in the game 'Is a completely modern phenomenon'.

          I have said this before, and I will say it again. Certain boxing fans and even people within boxing, have gotten so used to witnessing weight draining within the sport 'People actually believe that it is a mandate or necessary, and that is what I think makes it a toxic culture'.

          I have just posted you a video featuring Dominic Ingle, who's entire family history has been involved in boxing 'He is telling you that fighters never used to weight drain themselves like they do within this modern era, and you are still refusing to acknowledge this fact'.

          This is a condition, it is something certain folk within boxing need to address etc.




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          • boxingitis
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            #65
            Originally posted by Doubledagger

            Devin Haney is 5'8" goofy.

            And there are no height classes in boxing.
            He is 5 9 idiot.

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            • Doubledagger
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              #66
              Originally posted by boxingitis

              He is 5 9 idiot.
              https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/741718

              Now what goofy?

              Are you gonna call yourself an idiot since I provided proof that you talking out your ass?

              Go ahead, I want to hear you call yourself an idiot.

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              • Gary Coleman
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                #67
                Originally posted by greeneye99

                You said Spence was bigger too
                Look how that turned out
                Lol
                Fans can be ridiculous sometimes.

                Go back and watch the Sergiy Derevyanchenko​ fight. Bud would get washed. Jermall is too big. End of story.

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                • DeeMoney
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Roadblock

                  They still dried out and gained a lot of weight with same day weigh-in as it was often very early in the morning allowing 12/14 hrs to pack on fluid weight, this is a false narrative that they didn't gain weight making it sound like they weighed in an hour before the contest.
                  No one implied they didn't gain some weight. But 12 hours before the fight is a heck of a lot different than the 36 hours we get now; its to a different extent
                  Last edited by DeeMoney; 08-05-2023, 04:27 PM.

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                  • boxingitis
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Doubledagger

                    https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/741718

                    Now what goofy?

                    Are you gonna call yourself an idiot since I provided proof that you talking out your ass?

                    Go ahead, I want to hear you call yourself an idiot.
                    I Google it and it said 5 9. If thats a mistake on google that aint me. Im not going to personally go measure Haney to argue with an idiot.
                    That still show how great Canelo is measuring the height of Light weight fighting Light Heavyweights.

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                    • greeneye99
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Gary Coleman

                      Fans can be ridiculous sometimes.

                      Go back and watch the Sergiy Derevyanchenko​ fight. Bud would get washed. Jermall is too big. End of story.
                      Well
                      Based on your theory Spence was too big look how he handled Danny Garcia
                      And Bud still Demolished Him
                      End of "Your' Story

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