Comments Thread For: Crawford-Spence Event Generated More Than $21,000,000 In Ticket Sales At T-Mobile Arena

[DClefthook]

Great gate number..

will do dramatically less then Ryan-Tank PPV

And you know this because....????

[DClefthook]

Imo race has a lot to do with it. But that could be my bias.

If not that its because fans were lied to that Haymon was the reason HBO got out of boxing. This turned out to be false. HBO execs admitted they were moving away anyway years later. This hasnt stopped haters from continuing the narrative.

Its also because he supported Floyd leaving TR and becoming the cash cow.

Haymon also correctly saw that a segment of boxing casual fans went to MMA. He doesn’t really market to these fans anymore. You can see from the posts the resentment this has caused.

Haymon gives fans that support PBC solid fights they like. He doesnt give those that dont support him what they want.

Yet his business keeps growing and succeeding despite that.

That really annoys those that hate him.

" he doesn't give those that don't support him what they want" PERFECT ANSWER!

[DClefthook]

How long b4 Ryan Garcia is with PBC?

Signing with Dereck James....given free tickets to PBC fights by Al Haymon....suing to get pit of his GBP contract.... now hanging with Floyd all weekend and Floyd showing him the wealth he can amass with his boxing money and the importance of staying away from *******, alcohol and kitchen utensils.

[GBP4LIFE]

Signing with Dereck James....given free tickets to PBC fights by Al Haymon....suing to get pit of his GBP contract.... now hanging with Floyd all weekend and Floyd showing him the wealth he can amass with his boxing money and the importance of staying away from *******, alcohol and kitchen utensils.

God created contracts my man LOLLL.. not the first time Ryan has been to Floyd’s house.. you just out of the loop.

speak on how Floyd don’t fugg with Tank at ALL.. how Floyd kicked Tank out the gym.. how Floyd refused to promote Tank vs Ryan fight at all on his IG or speak on it at all

I guess Joshua is going to the PBC as well because he trains with Derrick James huh Smh

[DClefthook]

Everything your saying sounds on point. I thought they could of promoted it more but supper fights sell themselves. Everything has changed. It's not about skills legacy stricky popularity. Casuals all about the belts. They don't know or care about the lineage or if WBC hands someone a belt. Its Often based on you tube or social media rather then skills. Salt papi LoL guys like Crawford are going extinct like dinosaurs. Boxing is dying they can't make fights ppl want to see it's always a one off. Never hear one person ever say I want ginger and mell nope noda one. PBC got there cheerleader rah rahing about it. I know many ppl have told me they want to see Benavedis vs Canelo. There no flow with PBC it's all manipulation engineering. It's all structured to keep fights and Fighters tied aligned with PBC They hire basement dweller who sit in a boiler room and cheerleader on this forum all thing PBC. Shameless. Paid members not real posters with there own views.
Unlike UFC the PBC is forced to deal with sanctioning body's that control the belts and make the rules. So in reality PBC is highly limited and don't have the ability or desire to make fights most ppl want to see- pay for, nah. Again anyone who actually pays for Canelo Vs Charlo when it's not even Mall fighting is a nut hugger fool, throwing good money away, PBC fans might not be the smartest Just sayin

I don't know how old you are but you need to go back to high school. You left to early. This has got to be the single most dumbest post anyone has put on this site ever. You listed your opinion of all the inner workings that goes on with PBC to make fights happen but said nothing st all about the other promoters. Hahs

[DClefthook]

Too bad Haymon lost all of the belts in the process LOL Haymon had no interest in making Bud-Spence, he told Spence to face Thurman at 54’, and then to sit back and he would get the Canelo payday, Spence didn’t listen now he’s on the outs with Uncle Al

and the only fight PBC won, in the fans eyes they didn’t win because of an absurd rehydration clause that made it an uneven playing field.

Canelo about to smoke Charlo boots, won’t even be competitive in a similar fashion to Bud-Spence..

Inoue-Fulton had absolutely nothing to do with PBC, that was a Top Rank card, point blank period.. Fulton just asked out to take the check.

Yea like the uncompetitive fights with PPVweather vs Manny/Canelo.

[DClefthook]

All promoters want to keep their titles in house. I don't defend Arum or any other promoters. They are al greedy. But the PBC fanboys have become a toxic mob expressing undying loyalty to a promoter, manager, network and will trash any fighter not signed with them. For years you clowns were trashing Crawford, now that he signed to get the fight he was asking for you finally give him his respect...after 40 fights! That is tribalism. This type of promoter loyalty never existed prior to Floyd signing with Haymon.

Then your dumbass just started watching boxing since 2015. I have been watching boxing since the 80s and there were always people loyal to a promoter and not just a boxer. Look at Tim "porch jockey" Bradley. You remember him.bragging about not doing work with Pbc because of his loyalty to Bob. And all his fans felt the same way. Idiot

[DClefthook]

The issue is you and the anti PBC faction lies about things to try and hide your real reasons for hating Haymon and Floyd.

Whenever another poster shines a light on your irrational hatred, you guys only response is to pretend we’re cheerleading or fanboys.

The toxicity is the racial hatred for a man that made a successful business when you and those like you continually predicted failure.

Instead of just giving credit and admitting you were wrong, you guys double and triple down with hate.

Stop lying. Crawford’s resume and staying with TR was criticized by all posters.

What didnt exist before Haymon and Floyd was a black promoter being falsely blamed for HBO’s demise that worked their way to the top in spite of hate from people like you.

Yea these are the same people that aren't honest with themselves and don't want to acknowledge that certain topics are due to race so the first thing they scream to get out of the debate is YOURE A RACE BAITER! They need to grow up!

[DClefthook]

Well, answering that implies that I agree that there is irrational hatred of Haymon. I don't necessarily agree that there is, and I cannot really generalize or summarize the opinions of an unnamed group of people who you accuse of this irrational hatred, unless I agree with you that's its just plain old racism. I think there are fair reasons to dislike any type of power broker (black, white, blue or Chinese) who exerts as much influence and control over the sport as Al Haymon does. Look at the way he directly affected the course of the WW division over the last several years by squeezing out promotional rivals and hurting the careers of a great fighter like Bud Crawford. We can all point fingers back and forth and declare this or that fighter/promoter/network is to blame for the mess, and that is fine as long as we support that argument with something resembling facts. The problem as I see it is that there are just too many people on this forum who immediately resort to the same tired, reductive explanation that any and all criticism of black people must necessarily have to be rooted in racism. It is exasperating to hear this crap over and over again.

Then if this is truly how you feel then why don't you have the same vitriol for the other promoters? When Arum has the belts he hangs onto them and doesn't work with any other promoters. He has also been sued multiple times over contract issues. Ryan, like Canelo, is suing to get out of his GBP contract due to shady business tactics by Oscar. Oscar also just got dragged by Stantionis for bad business practices and advised all young fighters not to sign with golden boy. Oscar also is a cross dressing alcoholic cokehead who allows hookers to stick kitchen spatulas up his but. So when (if) you respond to this tell us your feelings on Bob and Oscar and point out all the negatives with them. If you can't then one will assume one thing and one thing only about you son.

[57Blues]

too late for that. The fact that Charles Martin fought Ortiz on a ppv is all you need to know about today's standard of ppv. At best, that **** would have been a Boxing after Dark undercard in the 90s

yes that is correct and that is what scares me about an event that a lotta fans enjoyed watching.(Crawdaddy v Spents) now boxing leaders can find a way to screw with it to make more money and put out less then interesting match ups. The most dedicated sport fans ever to live (fight fans) and they play games with what they decide to put out to us......