Comments Thread For: Crawford-Spence Event Generated More Than $21,000,000 In Ticket Sales At T-Mobile Arena

[Bronx2245]

I agree! Haymon should definitely make a pathway for Crawford to purse greatness to face Charlo, anf if Bud has the spuds face Canelo as well.
He's earned these future opportunities after having his career stalled to a significant extent by his former (tight wad) promoter Bob Arum.
Who must be kicking himself black, and blue after seeing how much money a fight involving his former fighter has made for his new promoter, and everyone else associated with the event.
Not to mention just how much more money Crawford is going to earn if he can maintain the type of fighting skills that he exhibited against Spence.

Arum on Spence-Crawford: I Don’t Know How It Gets Done Without Somebody Wanting To Subsidize That Fight
July 26, 2022

While the promotional problem may no longer be at play, Arum believes the economic one still persists. Arum’s contention is that a Spence-Crawford fight would not generate enough pay-per-view buys to cover both the high guarantees that would go to the fighters but also the profit expectations from the financial backers. Arum put the blame squarely on internet piracy.

He also suggested that unless the en****** in charge of the fight—in this case PBC and presumably Showtime—are willing to lose money on the fight the options are dismal. The fighters, according to Arum, are not inclined to take a percentage of the net pay-per-view sales at the expense of their guaranteed purse. To that end, the only way to make the fight work from a financial standpoint, Arum said, is to involve a wealthy benefactor or entity who would be willing to underwrite the bout.

“Same problem,” Arum told FightHype.com. “It’s a big fight. It has a tremendous interest for people who follow boxing, but that doesn’t necessarily translate into revenue from pay-per-view, which is the biggest source, because of the piracy.”

“The fighters realize how big a fight it is and they want to be paid big amounts of money and the promoter, in this case PBC, has to look at it and say you know, hey, we’ll put it on, we’ll give you nice guarantees, but you have to be willing to live with the upside, which the fighters realize now probably will not develop. Again, unless somebody wants to subsidize that fight I don’t know how it gets done.”

Arum did offer a possible solution, and that is to lower the typical American price point of a pay-per-view package. Arum pointed to the example in the United Kingdom, where the price point is typically less than in the United States. Arum believes that dropping the price could dissuade potential thieves.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-...-fight--167893

He never wanted to do it! The list of stars continues! Oscar, Floyd, Cotto, Mikey, Pacquiao, and now Crawford!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Thats huge. Happy for Bud, Spence and PBC.

[Oldskoolg]

For a promotion that is supposedly dying, this is the 3rd massive event PBC has had or been part of this year- Tank/Ryan, Spence/Crawford and Inoue/Fulton.

PBC developed a star on their own, put on the best fight of the year, and worked with another promoter 2x on massive events, one on the road outside of America.

PBC has refuted every false narrative those that hate Haymon and Floyd have come up with, all in the span of a few months.

Add to that they have Canelo back in the fold and have the one opponent people want to see him fight the most in Benavidez.

Lastly, they took a disgruntled Crawford that is suing TR for racial bias, and not only got him the fight his previous promoter couldnt, but got him a viral cultural moment when Eminem walked him out.

Lmfao.

The only real question is why so many people are Haymon and pbc to fail, what’s behind it? Also, wasn’t the narrative that FBA fighters don’t sell tickets? Didn’t they always say that the only reason Spence was selling in Dallas was due to Garcia etc?

[Boricua181]

Arum on Spence-Crawford: I Don’t Know How It Gets Done Without Somebody Wanting To Subsidize That Fight
July 26, 2022

While the promotional problem may no longer be at play, Arum believes the economic one still persists. Arum’s contention is that a Spence-Crawford fight would not generate enough pay-per-view buys to cover both the high guarantees that would go to the fighters but also the profit expectations from the financial backers. Arum put the blame squarely on internet piracy.

He also suggested that unless the en****** in charge of the fight—in this case PBC and presumably Showtime—are willing to lose money on the fight the options are dismal. The fighters, according to Arum, are not inclined to take a percentage of the net pay-per-view sales at the expense of their guaranteed purse. To that end, the only way to make the fight work from a financial standpoint, Arum said, is to involve a wealthy benefactor or entity who would be willing to underwrite the bout.

“Same problem,” Arum told FightHype.com. “It’s a big fight. It has a tremendous interest for people who follow boxing, but that doesn’t necessarily translate into revenue from pay-per-view, which is the biggest source, because of the piracy.”

“The fighters realize how big a fight it is and they want to be paid big amounts of money and the promoter, in this case PBC, has to look at it and say you know, hey, we’ll put it on, we’ll give you nice guarantees, but you have to be willing to live with the upside, which the fighters realize now probably will not develop. Again, unless somebody wants to subsidize that fight I don’t know how it gets done.”

Arum did offer a possible solution, and that is to lower the typical American price point of a pay-per-view package. Arum pointed to the example in the United Kingdom, where the price point is typically less than in the United States. Arum believes that dropping the price could dissuade potential thieves.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-...-fight--167893

He never wanted to do it! The list of stars continues! Oscar, Floyd, Cotto, Mikey, Pacquiao, and now Crawford!

That old man is as dishonest as they come, that's why so many fighters have left his promotional company, once they get to a certain point in their career.
Arum is only willing to shell out but so much money for his fighters, because he's also as greedy as they come also.

[boxingitis]

Life changing for crawford. Couldn’t have happened to a
more solid humble respectful guy too. He’s the real face of boxing now

For how long, he is 35 yrs old. There is not too much motivation after doing it all.

[GBP4LIFE]

Great gate number..

will do dramatically less then Ryan-Tank PPV

[TheOneAboveAll]

So does this mean that Crawford and Spence are superstars?

Let's wait on the PPV numbers. Expectations weren't high for this. I would think anything around 750-800K PPV sales would be regarded as a success for this fight. I don't believe it's going to be anwywhere near the Tank-Garcia sales numbers, but hoping that it did at least as well as the Jake Paul- Tommy Fury fight, which I read did 775K buys. One would hope that a legitimate boxing superfight would outsell a novelty fight.

[Hotsauce91]

"Only the Gervonta Davis-Ryan Garcia superfight did bigger business on the year. Their April 22 event—also at T-Mobile Arena—produced an estimated $22.8 million in ticket sales and more than $100,000,000 in revenue from a reported 1.2 million PPV units sold."

I'm happy for Tank and Ryan, and I'm glad they gave the fans what they wanted, but DAMN! More than Spence vs. Crawford, with no real titles at stake? That's crazy!

Yea that's crazy

[The Big Dunn]

The only real question is why so many people are Haymon and pbc to fail, what’s behind it? Also, wasn’t the narrative that FBA fighters don’t sell tickets? Didn’t they always say that the only reason Spence was selling in Dallas was due to Garcia etc?

Imo race has a lot to do with it. But that could be my bias.

If not that its because fans were lied to that Haymon was the reason HBO got out of boxing. This turned out to be false. HBO execs admitted they were moving away anyway years later. This hasnt stopped haters from continuing the narrative.

Its also because he supported Floyd leaving TR and becoming the cash cow.

Haymon also correctly saw that a segment of boxing casual fans went to MMA. He doesn’t really market to these fans anymore. You can see from the posts the resentment this has caused.

Haymon gives fans that support PBC solid fights they like. He doesnt give those that dont support him what they want.

Yet his business keeps growing and succeeding despite that.

That really annoys those that hate him.

[Hotsauce91]

So does this mean that Crawford and Spence are superstars?

naw.......