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  • OldTerry
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    #51
    Originally posted by Boricua181
    Ennis is right! A rematch between Spence and Crawford is completely unnecessary at any weight, due to Spence's one sided drubbing in the first fight.
    Agreed, Ennis is right. Ennis' motive though is he wants a big money fight against Crawford. He would lose that fight, and I suppose the payday would make it worth it.

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      #52
      Originally posted by vitruvian
      Boots is one hell of a fighter in every sense of the word but he happens to be sharing a division with a GOAT level all time great hall of famer who has shown no signs of slipping and coming off one of the best performances in boxing history. The dude has his work cut out for him. In any other era or time he would likely become a champion boxer but man did he pick a wrong time and weight to make a run at becoming a champion.
      I believe Crawford will move up as well. He really has no more worlds to conquer at Welterweight. Great chance he would rule a king at 154.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Raggamuffin
        What has you so convinced that Ennis is the goods and can beat Bud, lmao? He hasn’t beaten anyone except bums.
        I never once said that he was or could. Perhaps you should save the question for Terence Crawford. All I am saying is that he is a very risky fight for either Bud or Spence because he has everything to prove and nothing to lose.

        Which makes him so dangerous for any major titleholder at Welterweight; Including Bud Crawford. Personally, I would favor Bud over Boots.

        However, Crawford won't take the chance because he has much bigger fish to fry at 154 against Jermell. If he so happens to lose to Ennis then his stock drops

        After coming off his huge Spence victory a fight with Jaron Ennis would be a huge let down because what will he be fighting for; Nothing?
        Boots would be coming to the bargaining table empty-handed with no bargaining chips, title belts or money.

        As a businessman this fight would be an exercise in futility for Bud Crawford because Ennis has nothing he wants or need.

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          #54
          Originally posted by champion4ever

          I never once said that he was or could. Perhaps you should save the question for Terence Crawford. All I am saying is that he is a very risky fight for either Bud or Spence because he has everything to prove and nothing to lose.

          Which makes him so dangerous for any major titleholder at Welterweight; Including Bud Crawford. Personally, I would favor Bud over Boots.

          However, Crawford won't take the chance because he has much bigger fish to fry at 154 against Jermell. If he so happens to lose to Ennis then his stock drops

          After coming off his huge Spence victory a fight with Jaron Ennis would be a huge let down because what will he be fighting for; Nothing?
          Boots would be coming to the bargaining table empty-handed with no bargaining chips, title belts or money.

          As a businessman this fight would be an exercise in futility for Bud Crawford because Ennis has nothing he wants or need.
          Save what question for Bud? He’s answered every question. Ennis hasn’t. So save what? It doesn’t matter who Bud fights, nobody can beat him around his weight-including Boots. I don’t care about who brings what to the table. As long as fans get the fights that we want, it doesn’t matter. They’re talking about Bud fighting a Spence rematch at 154, a Charlo fight, a Tszyu fight and even a fight against Tank at 147 If Boots is that guy, I’m sure Bud will give him a shot. I just don’t think that Boots is ready. Bud has even said that Ennis deserves a shot. Well just have to wait and see. Bud has never been a “he has to wait for his shot” kind of champ. He will fight who ever is in front of him or who the fans wantt him to fight…. high RISK or not…

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            #55
            Originally posted by Raggamuffin

            Save what question for Bud? He’s answered every question. Ennis hasn’t. So save what? It doesn’t matter who Bud fights, nobody can beat him around his weight-including Boots. I don’t care about who brings what to the table. As long as fans get the fights that we want, it doesn’t matter. They’re talking about Bud fighting a Spence rematch at 154, a Charlo fight, a Tszyu fight and even a fight against Tank at 147 If Boots is that guy, I’m sure Bud will give him a shot. I just don’t think that Boots is ready. Bud has even said that Ennis deserves a shot. Well just have to wait and see. Bud has never been a “he has to wait for his shot” kind of champ. He will fight who ever is in front of him or who the fans wantt him to fight…. high RISK or not…
            Really? He definitely doesn't have a track record of someone fighting anyone who is in front of him or fighting the best fighters that boxing fans wanted to see.

            When he was with Top Rank he fought nothing but scrubs and tomato cans because Bob Arum's stable of welterweights was and is very sparse.

            The fact is if Bud truly wanted all the smoke with the best welters in the world then he would have left Top Rank a long time ago. They held Bud back because they had no good fighters for him.

            Now he is exactly where he should and needs to be with the PBC. Since they hold all the cards and belts around the weight classes he competes in.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Rockenator
              Nice post. If Crawford goes after a big money fight, it will probably be at 154. Since Charlo is jumping up to 168 lbs. to fight Canelo, if he loses, would he drop back down to 154 lbs. to defend his Super Welterweight titles? That’s the biggest money fight for Crawford. I don’t think Bud is afraid of Ennis at all. But if there’s little money in that fight - what’s the point. Disagree on one match - namely a washed up, head leading and light punching Ugas versus Ennis. That does nothing for Boots in terms of preparing him for higher skilled boxers. Ugas was terrible against Spence and the only reason that fight was made was Ugas beating old man Manny, who was so far past his prime that it was painful to watch. Not the Pacquiao I’ll remember. Ugas should just disappear as he adds nothing to the welterweight division. Thurman versus Boots would be interesting, but Thurman is past his prime, as well. Crawford has bulldozed the Welterweight division and it will be interesting to see how he maximizes his earning potential in his upcoming fights. Truth is, there isn’t much more to conquer outside of another 4 belt conquest at 154.
              yeah you’re probably right about Ugas, but bar him and Thurman couldn’t really think of a half decent test at 147 for Ennis. On the upside assuming he can live up to his potential he should find it relatively easy to unify once Crawford relinquishes the belts which I reckon he’ll do pretty quick as what else does he have to prove at 147. Undisputed in 3 weight classes has to be his goal with only a few fights left. Spence is done in my opinion. As Atlas very succinctly put it, you leave a little bit of yourself in the ring with fights like that you’ll never get back. It’s very obvious when fighters have lost a step and weight drain only goes so far in explaining why - Canelo, Josh Taylor to name a couple. None of them will ever be as good again. All too long in the tooth and too many wars.

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                #57
                Originally posted by OldTerry

                Agreed, Ennis is right. Ennis' motive though is he wants a big money fight against Crawford. He would lose that fight, and I suppose the payday would make it worth it.
                He's the mandatory IBF challenger. Why would he not want it regardless of the money?

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                  #58
                  Possibly Ennis but a Spence rematch is right now far more lucrative for Crawford right now even Thurman. Fam you high risk no reward.

                  Up the ante a lil bit more and then holla

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by OldTerry

                    Agreed, Ennis is right. Ennis' motive though is he wants a big money fight against Crawford. He would lose that fight, and I suppose the payday would make it worth it.
                    I realize that Ennis is looking out for his own interest, but him stating that he doesn't see a need for a rematch between Spence, and Crawford is 100% accurate.
                    It looked like Crawford was going to literally kill Spence in their fight, Crawford was just causing damage to Spence physically, psychologically, and internally.
                    If Spence pushes forward with a rematch, it just might be the last paycheck he collect's in the sport of boxing, he's got nothing for Crawford.
                    As a matter of fact I believe that Crawford beat's Ennis as well, albeit in a much tougher fight than in the Spence thrashing.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by OldTerry

                      Agreed, Ennis is right. Ennis' motive though is he wants a big money fight against Crawford. He would lose that fight, and I suppose the payday would make it worth it.
                      Only Ennis wont get big money, its about TC is the man and Ennis is hungry for a shot. Boots is doing what he is supposed to do call the top guy.

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