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  • #31
    Originally posted by Feint First View Post
    I got Boots over either one of these cats.
    Based on what?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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      So not having a controversial secession is the criteria to measure greatness?
      Oscar has two controversial wins (Felix Sturm and Whitaker), Roy Jones has a controversial win over Tarver, Mosley has a controversial win over Oscar, Andre Ward has a controversial win over Kovalev, and the list goes on and on.

      Of course you are alluding to the Castillo and Maidana fights that Floyd rematches and won again.
      Would you say Crawford has a better resume than Floyd? You would have to be a true casual fan to say that.

      Crawford is a great boxer. Would be a great mythical matchup between him and Floyd and we can argue all day about it but career wise, Crawford is not even close to Floyd by a mile.
      Not saying Floyd wasn’t a great boxer because he absolutely was. Crawford is more complete imo. He’s never had a bout that you questioned if he won he completely dominates and knocks people out. He isn’t looking to catch guys ready to retire either he moved up fought everyone he could get in the ring who had a belt beat em all. Floyd’s matchups were very calculated and timed out. They’re two different fighters Crawford is just more complete imo is all I’m saying which I think makes him better.
      Also it’s well known that Spence was touching up Mayweather pretty good in sparring sessions and Crawford toyed with him a bigger stronger more experienced version.
      Last edited by Rigpig; 07-31-2023, 08:04 PM.

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      • #33
        Check my posts. I told u co.ksuckers what was gonna happen that Errol waa going to be hurt bad. Idk why ppl said Errol was the puncher. Yes Errol can thump- if u stand there and let him beat on u. I knew that wasn't about to happen. Now u same dudes that were riding the Errol bandwagon are saying Errol was washed up and over rated, that he was damaged goods. But he was actually a certifed bone breaker. Broke bones faces, eye sockets, ribs of many top fighters. So never discredit this man whatsoever. That minimizes Bud's accomplishments. When u knock his victory, do it while looking in the mirror, so u can see what kinda piece of sh.t u are, always criticizing and downplaying hard work and success. Bud came ready and did his job. No matter what Spence showed up, this was always going to be the outcome. And this is why Al Haymon and Fraud always blocked this fight for YEARS, because they always knew what was gonna happen if Errol and Bud met. Its that simple
        Last edited by archiemoore1; 07-31-2023, 08:35 PM.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
          Check my posts. I told u co.ksuckers what was gonna happen that Errol waa going to be hurt bad. Idk why ppl said Errol was the puncher. Yes Errol can thump- if u stand there and let him beat on u. I knew that wasn't about to happen. Now u same dudes that were riding the Errol bandwagon are saying Errol was washed up and over rated, that he was damaged goods. But he was actually a certifed bone breaker. Broke bones faces, eye sockets, ribs of many top fighters. So never discredit this man whatsoever. That minimizes Bud's accomplishments. When u knock his victory, do it while looking in the mirror, so u can see what kinda piece of sh.t u are, always criticizing and downplaying hard work and success. Bud came ready and did his job. No matter what Spence showed up, this was always going to be the outcome. And this is why Al Haymon and Fraud always blocked this fight for YEARS, because they always knew what was gonna happen if Errol and Bud met. Its that simple
          Man
          You hit the nail on the head
          All these Spence fans claimed before the fight
          "Errol breaks bones.."
          "Bud Crawford would be running all night.."
          "Lil Bud won't stand a chance..."
          Now all Spence Fans are crying...
          Errol Spence was always "Overrated"
          "Weight drained"
          Sheeeh just give Bud Crawford his props man
          I'm talking to Champion4ever
          Mexican _Puppet & few other New bandwagon Fans
          Lol
          Last edited by greeneye99; 07-31-2023, 09:53 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
            Check my posts. I told u co.ksuckers what was gonna happen that Errol waa going to be hurt bad. Idk why ppl said Errol was the puncher. Yes Errol can thump- if u stand there and let him beat on u. I knew that wasn't about to happen. Now u same dudes that were riding the Errol bandwagon are saying Errol was washed up and over rated, that he was damaged goods. But he was actually a certifed bone breaker. Broke bones faces, eye sockets, ribs of many top fighters. So never discredit this man whatsoever. That minimizes Bud's accomplishments. When u knock his victory, do it while looking in the mirror, so u can see what kinda piece of sh.t u are, always criticizing and downplaying hard work and success. Bud came ready and did his job. No matter what Spence showed up, this was always going to be the outcome. And this is why Al Haymon and Fraud always blocked this fight for YEARS, because they always knew what was gonna happen if Errol and Bud met. Its that simple
            The more I think about it, I do think PBC were trying to maximize Spence before ever having to fight Bud. Mayweather definitely told the powers that be that Bud was all wrong for Errol. I don't think Errol was scared but they wanted to protect their key attraction and keep the money train going.

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            • #36
              Crawford is one of the best boxer/punchers Ive ever seen. Slick, fast, power puncher, adjust to any boxer.
              Absolute complete fighter!
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              • #37
                Shakur is full of himself and he wasn't like that but now i wish he fights Tank so he can be humble again

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by satiev1 View Post

                  stop it. FLOYD HAD A SD WIN AGAINST A PAST PRIME OVER THE HILL DE LA HOYA WHO GOT STOPPED BY MANNY SHORTLY THEREAFTER AND THEN HAD A CONTROVERSIAL WIN AGAINST CASTILLO WHO MAJORITY THOUGHT HE LOST. BUT YAH FLOYD IS LEVELS ABOVE BUD HUH?
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                  Clearly you didn’t read s as single thing I wrote so you continue your arguments with yourself

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Bostonfear View Post
                    It depends. Old school fighters had to fight more often and you just had more people who were fighters, so there were a lot of opponents to go through. So yes, Bud aint have to do that or done it

                    But when you just look at his skills and abilities, I really do rate him as a top 5 ATG WW. Maybe even higher. Hard to think anyone can match up to Robinson, but feel like Bud might beat any other WW

                    His combination of skills including being able to control the postion of your opponent. Bud was a wrestler and I think that gives him this huge advantage. And his ability to land power shots from any range at all, plus his ability to adapt and read and use patterns. That combo of skills is crazy

                    Plus I have never seen a fighter use a hook to counter a jab so much, the dude does things no other fighter does
                    Well said, Robinson went thru Europe in 8 months or so with 10+ fights, 6-7 fights a year was common. Hard to put anyone ahead of Robinson every fighter he lost to he avenged, he defeated 10 HOFs, his body of work is undefeated, Even Ali admits he was the best ( Ali still says HE was the greatest of course). Secondly I would have to say Bud is undeniable the most natural fighter with the most unnaturally skillsets and abilities I've seen in a long time, combination of Whitaker, James Toney, with Julian Jackson power
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tibburon245 View Post
                      After this doesn't look like even Boots has a chance--but I could be wrong--like many were wrong about Spence. Crawford looks unbeatable for now.
                      I'm pretty sure that Boots would land much more than Spence - he has the complete offensive toolbox. Would getting tagged often slow Bud down? How good is Boots' chin? it seems ok but everyone has a limit. I'd love to see this fight.

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