Crawford #1 P4P by far!!!!

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  • IceTrayDaGang
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    #81
    1. canelo
    2. inoue
    3. crawford

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    • satiev1
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      #82
      Originally posted by hmabshir
      no! inoue has fought better competition overall. Crawford has dominated spence, but needs to beat charlo to be p4p 1.
      you're a comedian

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        #83
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

        It's easy to point out that Inoue is one fight away from his second undisputed, and fought the #1 unified champion in his divisional debut, rather than settling into a division, and earning a lone title against a guy who benefited from a robbery vs Pacquiao, and not fighting for undisputed for 5 years and 7 fights.

        And Spence didn't deserve to be on the P4P list in the first place, with his limited resume. He was only there because of American media bias.

        As I said, I don't have a problem with Crawford being #1. But I don't think appreciating Crawford's sublime performance requires devaluing Inoue. It's ok though. Crawford is at the tail end of his career. Inoue will continue to prove why people who overlook the smaller divisions are idiots. People said the same things about Pacquiao too. If you can't see greatness in both performances, you don't understand or appreciate the sweet science.
        Your opinion here doesn't matter. Spence was on the pound for pound list. Fulton wasn't. That's going to be a historical fact. Your opinion and after the fact rewriting of history won't change that about Spence. Crawford is a two division undisputed champion. Inoue is not. Those are facts.


        This is not too devalue Inoue who had a spectacular performance also. He's one of the best I've ever seen. But so is Crawford who I have as number 1 and Inoue as number 2. That's not disrespect at all.There is a multitude of professional boxers, trainers, and journalist that also have Crawford as the numbet 1 pound for pound fighter and I believe he is.
        Last edited by joseph5620; 07-31-2023, 10:37 AM.

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        • hugh grant
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          #84
          Originally posted by -MEGA-
          Crawford is leagues above Inoue



          leagues!

          Hed have to show and prove it by beating someone stronger than spence. Spencevwasnt a dominant WW.
          When pac signed to fight spence, no floyd fan was saying "wow, if pac beatsspence pac must be no1 pfp, and above floyd, let alone pac must be goat? It was more along lines of "pac is broke, he doing it for money, not legacy"
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            #85
            Originally posted by hugh grant

            Hed have to show and prove it by beating someone stronger than spence. Spencevwasnt a dominant WW.
            When pac signed to fight spence, no floyd fan was saying "wow, if pac beatsspence pac must be no1 pfp, and above floyd, let alone pac must be goat? It was more along lines of "pac is broke, he doing it for money, not legacy"
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            Almost 2 decades on this site and you're still just as dumb as ever.

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              #86
              Originally posted by joseph5620

              Almost 2 decades on this site and you're still just as dumb as ever.
              Spence wasn't dominant otherwise he'd have moved up ages ago. He's got some good wins but he barely could be described as dominant in them.
              Inou e was dominant and that's why he's in the division he is in now, rather than what was it, straw weight he was in before or whatever it's called
              Last edited by hugh grant; 07-31-2023, 10:50 AM.

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              • -MEGA-
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                #87
                Originally posted by hugh grant

                Hed have to show and prove it by beating someone stronger than spence. Spencevwasnt a dominant WW.
                When pac signed to fight spence, no floyd fan was saying "wow, if pac beatsspence pac must be no1 pfp, and above floyd, let alone pac must be goat? It was more along lines of "pac is broke, he doing it for money, not legacy"
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                give it up bud

                Crawford is number one P4P by a country mile. Inoue a distant second.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by -MEGA-

                  give it up bud

                  Crawford is number one P4P by a country mile. Inoue a distant second.
                  No, it's clear it's Inoue the figures show that. But Bud learnt so much from inoues win over fulton. Bud knew he had to approach the same level of dominance inoue displayed and the jab needed some oomph

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by joseph5620

                    Your opinion here doesn't matter. Spence was on the pound for pound list. Fulton wasn't. That's going to be a historical fact. Your opinion and after the fact rewriting of history won't change that about Spence. Crawford is a two division undisputed champion. Inoue is not. Those are facts.


                    This is not too devalue Inoue who had a spectacular performance also. He's one of the best I've ever seen. But so is Crawford who I have as number 1 and Inoue as number 2. That's not disrespect at all.There is a multitude of professional boxers, trainers, and journalist that also have Crawford as the numbet 1 pound for pound fighter and I believe he is.
                    You, and everyone else are entitled to put whoever you want on your list. It's an opinion.

                    As is mine that Spence didn't deserve to be on the P4P list. Search my posts and you'll see I had expressed this opinion several times well before the fight. I'm not changing anything after the fact.

                    I don't have any issue with people who want to put Crawford #1. But I think it's disingenuous and unworthy to do so by devaluing Inoue and his accomplishments. I think most reasonable observers can agree that at minimum, we know who the top 2 are, and that we were lucky to get to witness two such performances, let alone in the same week.

                    And there's nothing factual about P4P lists. If anything, what's factual is that they're opinions, and that they are heavily biased towards being popularity contests that discount the lower weight classes and fighters not from the US/UK. If anything, this week offered solid evidence of what P4P is supposed to look like, and also who wasn't on that level. You can't tell me that Spence's performance looked like one worthy of a guy who was supposed to be only 1-3 slots lower than Bud. It DID look like a performance of a very good fighter who has had 5 title defenses in one division across a decade, who has only had 5 fights in 5 years, with very little fighting a real talent who was levels above. But it was proof IMO that people were wrong to have him on the P4P list at all.

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