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  • IronDanHamza
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    #81
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    I knew better and should have watched out for you trying to get me on some detail. But I’m getting ready to watch this card tonight so I got a little careless.
    That's your problem.

    If you were consistent in your argument you wouldn't have to worry about being "careless". Your issue is your inconsistency, not your lack of care.



    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Race plays such a non-role in his removal that in the bigger picture it doesn’t matter anyway. I could make that error and he still wasn’t fired for his race.
    How do you know that? YOU DON'T.

    Just like you don't know that Coppinger was removed due to his race.

    Thus; The entire point.

    Race either has nothing to do with it or everything to do with it. You can't pick and chose when it does or doesn't.

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      #82
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      That's your problem.

      If you were consistent in your argument you wouldn't have to worry about being "careless". Your issue is your inconsistency, not your lack of care.





      How do you know that? YOU DON'T.

      Just like you don't know that Coppinger was removed due to his race.

      Thus; The entire point.

      Race either has nothing to do with it or everything to do with it. You can't pick and chose when it does or doesn't.
      Coppinger was removed because he reported numerous inaccuracies in connection to the fight and refused to correct them - despite both camps telling him he was wrong, It wasn't the first or last time where he was wrong on a story and refused to make a correction.

      Keep in mind of Copp's track record. He was let go from The Ring and his contract was non-renewed by The Athletic.
      Last edited by BIGPOPPAPUMP; 07-29-2023, 05:11 PM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP

        Coppinger was removed because he reported numerous inaccuracies in connection to the fight and refused to correct them - despite both camps telling him he was wrong, It wasn't the first or last time where he was wrong on a story and refused to make a correction.
        Thanks for the clarification.

        ShoulderRoll You can now retract your statement that he was removed because he's not black and make a public apology.

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          #84
          An explanation vague enough that nobody could argue.

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            #85
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP

            Coppinger was removed because he reported numerous inaccuracies in connection to the fight and refused to correct them - despite both camps telling him he was wrong, It wasn't the first or last time where he was wrong on a story and refused to make a correction.

            Keep in mind of Copp's track record. He was let go from The Ring and his contract was non-renewed by The Athletic.
            You have a source for that, BPP?

            I have no issue retracting my statement if this is what happened.

            As of yet I don’t see any official explanation as to why the credential was denied, though.



            “Mike Coppinger, widely acknowledged as the top boxing reporter in the US, will not be attending the Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence card in Las Vegas Saturday evening.

            The former USA Today, Ring and The Athletic media member requested but was denied a credential to cover from a ringside. On Friday afternoon, the NY Post ran story which alleged that Showtime and Premier Boxing Champions, the production platform and main promotional entity, blocked the content creator from being up close with media access privileges to view the welterweight fight between Spence and Crawford.​..

            I reached out to Coppinger, who said yes, he had been denied a credential. He said he couldn’t comment on the matter.

            An ESPN PR spokesperson told me that the Post story was accurate, from the ESPN perspective.

            The Post story lacked specifics, such as “why” this move was put into motion. I requested insight from Showtime and was told that
            PBC denied the request, this wasn’t a Showtime decision.

            Does Showtime have a stance on the issue, have a feeling about the curious choice to rebuff the industry’s media lead dog? “No comment” was the reply.

            Promoter Tom Brown verified that Tim Smith, ex media (NY Times, NY Daily News) himself, would be the preferred PBC contact to try and gain clarity on this slap.

            A Friday email to Smith from this reporter wasn’t answered.

            Mike Coppinger has plenty of followers but yes, he has his share of detractors as well. Did he do something recently to draw the ire of PBC, the Al Haymon construct?

            Or was it payback for a past perceived slight? Sources aren’t saying, not publicly anyway.

            Some commenters on social media platforms initially wondered if this wasn’t part of a territorial pissing contest between media behemoths, with Showtime and PBC engaging in some sharp-bladed battling, against ESPN.

            An ESPN source told me no, they weren’t pulling stories or blowing off event coverage because ESPN has a partnership arrangement with Top Rank.

            Mike Coppinger memorably beefed with Top Rank bossman Bob Arum.

            Some onlookers sorting out this inside baseball media matter would probably understand if their Oct 2021 verbal tussle spurred lingering feelings of enmity, arguing that a credential request denial from their office would seem to make sense on surface.

            But no, this minor mystery is playing out with no clear impetus, with no involvement Arum, it looks like. Basically, sources know, but aren’t saying aloud.”



            https://nyfights.com/worldwide/mike-...ss-credential/



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              #86
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              You have a source for that, BPP?

              I have no issue retracting my statement if this is what happened.

              As of yet I don’t see any official explanation as to why the credential was denied, though.



              “Mike Coppinger, widely acknowledged as the top boxing reporter in the US, will not be attending the Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence card in Las Vegas Saturday evening.

              The former USA Today, Ring and The Athletic media member requested but was denied a credential to cover from a ringside. On Friday afternoon, the NY Post ran story which alleged that Showtime and Premier Boxing Champions, the production platform and main promotional entity, blocked the content creator from being up close with media access privileges to view the welterweight fight between Spence and Crawford.​..

              I reached out to Coppinger, who said yes, he had been denied a credential. He said he couldn’t comment on the matter.

              An ESPN PR spokesperson told me that the Post story was accurate, from the ESPN perspective.

              The Post story lacked specifics, such as “why” this move was put into motion. I requested insight from Showtime and was told that
              PBC denied the request, this wasn’t a Showtime decision.

              Does Showtime have a stance on the issue, have a feeling about the curious choice to rebuff the industry’s media lead dog? “No comment” was the reply.

              Promoter Tom Brown verified that Tim Smith, ex media (NY Times, NY Daily News) himself, would be the preferred PBC contact to try and gain clarity on this slap.

              A Friday email to Smith from this reporter wasn’t answered.

              Mike Coppinger has plenty of followers but yes, he has his share of detractors as well. Did he do something recently to draw the ire of PBC, the Al Haymon construct?

              Or was it payback for a past perceived slight? Sources aren’t saying, not publicly anyway.

              Some commenters on social media platforms initially wondered if this wasn’t part of a territorial pissing contest between media behemoths, with Showtime and PBC engaging in some sharp-bladed battling, against ESPN.

              An ESPN source told me no, they weren’t pulling stories or blowing off event coverage because ESPN has a partnership arrangement with Top Rank.

              Mike Coppinger memorably beefed with Top Rank bossman Bob Arum.

              Some onlookers sorting out this inside baseball media matter would probably understand if their Oct 2021 verbal tussle spurred lingering feelings of enmity, arguing that a credential request denial from their office would seem to make sense on surface.

              But no, this minor mystery is playing out with no clear impetus, with no involvement Arum, it looks like. Basically, sources know, but aren’t saying aloud.”



              https://nyfights.com/worldwide/mike-...ss-credential/



              Which part of any of that wall of text mentions he was denied a credential because of his race?

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                #87
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                Which part of any of that wall of text mentions he was denied a credential because of his race?
                How do you know he wasn’t, Dan? The wall of text says no one is talking.

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                  #88
                  I’ve hated him ever since he argued with Bob arum, he has no respect for his elders

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                    How do you know he wasn’t, Dan? The wall of text says no one is talking.
                    Here we go again, me having to explain the burden of proof to you and how it works for the umpteenth time.

                    You are making the claim that he was denied a credential due to his race. That means the onus is on you to provide evidence as to why that is true.

                    The onus is not on me to prove that it wasn't.

                    So I will ask you the same question again, where in that wall of text is there any mention of race?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      You have a source for that, BPP?

                      I have no issue retracting my statement if this is what happened.

                      As of yet I don’t see any official explanation as to why the credential was denied, though.



                      “Mike Coppinger, widely acknowledged as the top boxing reporter in the US, will not be attending the Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence card in Las Vegas Saturday evening.

                      The former USA Today, Ring and The Athletic media member requested but was denied a credential to cover from a ringside. On Friday afternoon, the NY Post ran story which alleged that Showtime and Premier Boxing Champions, the production platform and main promotional entity, blocked the content creator from being up close with media access privileges to view the welterweight fight between Spence and Crawford.​..

                      I reached out to Coppinger, who said yes, he had been denied a credential. He said he couldn’t comment on the matter.

                      An ESPN PR spokesperson told me that the Post story was accurate, from the ESPN perspective.

                      The Post story lacked specifics, such as “why” this move was put into motion. I requested insight from Showtime and was told that
                      PBC denied the request, this wasn’t a Showtime decision.

                      Does Showtime have a stance on the issue, have a feeling about the curious choice to rebuff the industry’s media lead dog? “No comment” was the reply.

                      Promoter Tom Brown verified that Tim Smith, ex media (NY Times, NY Daily News) himself, would be the preferred PBC contact to try and gain clarity on this slap.

                      A Friday email to Smith from this reporter wasn’t answered.

                      Mike Coppinger has plenty of followers but yes, he has his share of detractors as well. Did he do something recently to draw the ire of PBC, the Al Haymon construct?

                      Or was it payback for a past perceived slight? Sources aren’t saying, not publicly anyway.

                      Some commenters on social media platforms initially wondered if this wasn’t part of a territorial pissing contest between media behemoths, with Showtime and PBC engaging in some sharp-bladed battling, against ESPN.

                      An ESPN source told me no, they weren’t pulling stories or blowing off event coverage because ESPN has a partnership arrangement with Top Rank.

                      Mike Coppinger memorably beefed with Top Rank bossman Bob Arum.

                      Some onlookers sorting out this inside baseball media matter would probably understand if their Oct 2021 verbal tussle spurred lingering feelings of enmity, arguing that a credential request denial from their office would seem to make sense on surface.

                      But no, this minor mystery is playing out with no clear impetus, with no involvement Arum, it looks like. Basically, sources know, but aren’t saying aloud.”



                      https://nyfights.com/worldwide/mike-...ss-credential/



                      I know of it as fact. Coppinger was denied a credential WEEKS ago. Not sure why it's making news in the last few days. He was banned last month from PBC events. But more than likely his agent, who works for CAA, leaked the story to the NY Post.

                      He was also banned earlier this year, but it was worked out prior to Tank-Garcia.

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