Why is Spence on p4p list?

[billeau2]

debatable, very debatable. But I understand Americans say so.

Its really not Jake. Its all in the numbers. Let me explain: If I drew a graph of average weight and controlled for a range, lets say 20% of a sample where the weight correlates to all the different athletic pursuits (Socer, football, Hockey, etc) The weight would probably start at around the welter weight limits. At this weight guys are strong enough to be bigger, walk around at around 170-200 if not fighting, but even more important, this is the weight of most people. So Welter is a division that converges between the most people, hence more competition, instead of competing with 5% of the population I am competing with like 40% of the population, and it is the weight that most athletes, the most athletic part of the population starts to weigh in at. Keeping in mind that if I am a cornerback for example, in football, I would fight Welter but weigh in a little more because of conditioning.

So, more competition, more competition from the most athletic sample of weights in the population (in the range at least) means that the welter weight division leader should be given some special sauce in the Pound for Pound rankings.

[bballchump11]

Why was GGG?

[billeau2]

its funny the WW division is so celebrated while the 2 divisions nearest to it are almost ridiculed

More like it is ignorant. I can understand some who have a bias with guys weighing less than my wife, who is 115 soaking wet... lol, but when we start to hit around 130 the guys are fighting with tough competition as somewhat substantial guys!! (sorry my bias).

[Smash]

guys weighing less than my wife, who is 115 soaking wet... lol,

got any pics?

[billeau2]

got any pics?

Were older, though she has her figure unlike yours truly!

[HeadShots]

He's not even that skilled tbh. from eye test alone he's just a rough and tumble guy that takes 1 to dish 1.

There's no P4P punching power, defense, offense, speed, nor skills



dude is completely overrated. Only reason he's big is because he's a black american champ for a while

[crimsonfalcon07]

Ok, explain to me how is he better than Beterbiev?

Beterbiev has only faced two champions ever, Gvozdyk and Joe Smith Jr., and has 8 defences. Spence has faced 7 champions and has 6 title defenses.

That being said, I have a tough time seeing why a few fights at welterweight makes for such a big deal. It made sense around the 50's because boxing was big in the US, and the average male in the US weighed fairly close to the welterweight limit so you'd find the most talent there.

These days, however, the average American male weighs 197, while the average male in the WORLD weighs about 136. There's actually more talent in the lower weight classes because there's more competition there, and the talent pool for the bigger divisions is shifting up as well. But saying that Spence's resume, win or lose, is somehow the equal of Inoue's, who has faced 13 world champions and is 20-0 with 18 stoppages in world title fights seems asinine to me.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Y OP no ask Ring?

Stoopid?

[JakeTheBoxer]

He's not even that skilled tbh. from eye test alone he's just a rough and tumble guy that takes 1 to dish 1.

There's no P4P punching power, defense, offense, speed, nor skills



dude is completely overrated. Only reason he's big is because he's a black american champ for a while

Yes. If he was European, he would be considered nothing special.

[The D3vil]

its funny the WW division is so celebrated while the 2 divisions nearest to it are almost ridiculed

I think it's because the best fighters from 140 & 154 are usually guys who aren't good enough for 147 where all the money fights are.

Like, you have a few guys who are just too damn big, but you see Spence, he should've moved up YEARS AGO, but stays because that's where the money fights are, so guys who can make 147, go up or down to 147 to be in that division.