Better Fighter Off Eye Test Terence Bud OR Inoue?

[GrandpaBernard]

Eye test i d have instinctively thought the monster. Doesn't bud look pretty k ordinary until he figures you out? And then bud pulls away.

Terence takes twice the amount of time Floyd does to crack a code.

4 rounds instead of 2.

And T tends to get caught with shots during reconnaissance. Floyd almost always won the first couple of rounds.

Bud slow starts is one reason I'm picking Errol

[_Rexy_]

Inoue is so good, that the rhetoric around todays fight was "Steph Fulton dared to be great" When he was the defending champion defending against someone who was moving up

[Ghost Jab]

Great question

I’d say they are different but equally memorable fighters

Inoue reminds me of Mayweather in his prime, or perhaps your namesake, Bernard Hopkins…
He just does everything really well with no major flaws

Crawford may actually have a higher ceiling, but I’d say he’s not as polished and great all-around as Inoue.

He reminds me more of RJJ or Sugar Leonard or someone else explosive like that, but who had a bad late career decline.

[Madison Boxing]

crawford as he is a reasonably sized human male not a 5 foot 5 122lb'r, rare to find someone that small in western world surely that affects the talent pool at that weight

[Sharpshootah]

Inoue has deeper tool set. His jab even looks like it'd KO you.

[EmpiresBoxing]

Inoue and it's not even close, crawford and spedsnce are just media hype.

[DeeMoney]

crawford as he is a reasonably sized human male not a 5 foot 5 122lb'r, rare to find someone that small in western world surely that affects the talent pool at that weight

Thats an interesting topic I've seen broached other places. Some argue that there isn't enough quality fighters at the smaller weights to accurately judge them, compared to those LW and above.

That being written, that may be a view point more attached to wealthier nations (as you alluded to 'western world'). With the proliferation of fighters at the smaller weights coming from Latin nations or SE Asia, maybe that talent pool isnt as empty as we think, its just located where we are not. Then take into account how populated some of those nations are, and boxing's relative decline in popularity in the west, and the talent pool issue evens out a bit.

Regardless, I think its a valid point to bring up.

[GrandpaBernard]

Great question

I’d say they are different but equally memorable fighters

Inoue reminds me of Mayweather in his prime, or perhaps your namesake, Bernard Hopkins…
He just does everything really well with no major flaws

Crawford may actually have a higher ceiling, but I’d say he’s not as polished and great all-around as Inoue.

He reminds me more of RJJ or Sugar Leonard or someone else explosive like that, but who had a bad late career decline.

The other day someone called Terence a sharpshooter

I wouldn't call him that. His strikes from awkward angles with looping shots rather than short & compact punches.

[GrandpaBernard]

Thats an interesting topic I've seen broached other places. Some argue that there isn't enough quality fighters at the smaller weights to accurately judge them, compared to those LW and above.

That being written, that may be a view point more attached to wealthier nations (as you alluded to 'western world'). With the proliferation of fighters at the smaller weights coming from Latin nations or SE Asia, maybe that talent pool isnt as empty as we think, its just located where we are not. Then take into account how populated some of those nations are, and boxing's relative decline in popularity in the west, and the talent pool issue evens out a bit.

Regardless, I think its a valid point to bring up.

Japanese diet bunch of rice and fish

Wouldn't be my first pick for developing big humans

[crimsonfalcon07]

Thats an interesting topic I've seen broached other places. Some argue that there isn't enough quality fighters at the smaller weights to accurately judge them, compared to those LW and above.

That being written, that may be a view point more attached to wealthier nations (as you alluded to 'western world'). With the proliferation of fighters at the smaller weights coming from Latin nations or SE Asia, maybe that talent pool isnt as empty as we think, its just located where we are not. Then take into account how populated some of those nations are, and boxing's relative decline in popularity in the west, and the talent pool issue evens out a bit.

Regardless, I think its a valid point to bring up.

Agreed. Considering that the bulk of the world's population lives in those places, and there's a VERY deep talent pool in those countries because they still value boxing and martial arts, it's an incredibly racist and ignorant take, only possible for a Westerner who doesn't actually watch the lower weight classes. You get that a lot in the US in particular. In reality, you tend to see higher skill levels at the lower levels precisely because there's so many more fighters. That's why you also see Muay Thai fighters at 25 who have hundreds of fights. You need to be exceptional to stand out from your peers in that kind of environment. A lot of those Muay Thai guys also go into boxing and become world champs.

I would bet that the average guy on the street in Japan knows who Inoue and Ioka are, and maybe also who guys like Junto Nakatani and Tenshin Nasukawa are. The average guy on the street in the US has no idea who Errol Spence Jr is, or even Tank Davis. Boxing isn't what it once was in the US.

I wouldn't be surprised if viewers in the East know the names of many contenders that would get dismissed on here as bums, but would think that Xander Zayas, Jared Anderson, Frank Martin etc are unknowns.