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  • pitpurse
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    #81
    Take nothing away from Bud's performance but something was definitely off with Spence, he looked way slow, others talking about it too. I mentioned a long time ago Boots vs Crawford was the career defining fight for Crawford & still think that today. I pick Crawford to win, but lets see if he can dominate boots before saying he deserves #1 P4P.

    Inoue looked very good and judging by the 2nd Donaire fight & Fulton he seems to be getting even better. Tank said during interview he's interested in a fight with Inoue but didn't mention a weight. It's a tall order, but If they meet at 130 Inoue will have his chance to convince the world he deserves #1 P4P.

    imo Charlo is very good fighter, but not quite the level as Boots. Styles make fights so anything can happen, but I think boots is a better test for Crawford.

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    • Just looking
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      #82
      Originally posted by ELPacman

      You honestly think Inoue has more skill than Bud? I do not. Not to mention, Inoue got hit with head snapping punches against Fulton... I don't think Bud had a mark after destroying Spence over 9rds or whatever it was.
      Inoue clearly has a better skillset. He ate that punch while walking down an opponent with no power to hurt him. And yes, Crawford ate at least one good overhand from spence

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      • hugh grant
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        #83
        Terence Crawford amateur record: 25 wins 11 losses only 2 KOs = 8% KO ratio Naoya Inoue amateur record 75 wins 6 losses with 48 KOs = 64% KO ratio And these are 3 rounds 3 mins each. And Naoya KO’d 64% of them even with the thicker padded amateur gloves and headgear on. So if Crawford is that good, why isn’t his amateur record like that then??? Hmm?

        The above I copied and paste from yt vid, not my research or words
        Last edited by hugh grant; 08-13-2023, 06:50 AM.

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          #84
          “Bud” Crawford’s past opponents total record combined Wins/Losses: 740/227 = 30.67% were “low” quality opponents, and only 69.32% were high quality opponents.

          Do you know what Naoya Inoue’s past opponents records was combined? Wins/Losses: 557/72, only 12.9% were low quality opponents, and a whopping 87.1% were high quality opponents. So Bud pretty much fought 69% of guys who have decent records while Naoya fought guys with 87% with good record. And Naoya KO’d/TKO’d 88% of them while Bud did it by only 77.5%. So hows that for “numbers/statistics” for you? Bud might have 40 wins with 31 KOs, but with a closer look, those total opponents record combined wins/losses is closer to 70/30, while Naoya even with less fights of 25 wins and 22 KOs fought with better opposition with an 87% to 12.9%. So who fought more “better” competition?

          And Naoya Inoue is 4 weight division champ Terence Crawford Total title wins 8 Title defenses 14 Title fight KO wins 14 Naoya Inoue Total title wins 10 Title defenses 15 Title fight KO wins 18 Terence Crawford 40 wins 31 KOs = 77.5% KO ratio, Wins via UD 22.5% Naoya Inoue 25 wins 22 KOs = 88% KO ratio Wins via UD 12% Terence first became undisputed in aug 2017, and again this year in 2023- took 6 years. Naoya became undisputed at 118 in dec 2022, and will easily beat Tapales this year in either Nov or dec, making him the fastest 2 time undisputed in literally just 1 year.

          Naoya Inoue already BLOWS Terence Crawfords record out the water and he did it better in less time in just 11 years compared to 15 years with Bud. So in less time, Naoyas fought better competition, with a more dominant figure in terms of knockouts and performance and with 4 weight classes to terence 3. Still think Bud is “p4p” given these statistics???

          Not my research above I copied and paste
          Last edited by hugh grant; 08-13-2023, 07:04 AM.

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            #85
            You guys are dumb as hell. Crawford is more proven, has beaten better competition and has been a consistent pound for pound guy for many years. Inoue just recently got into that list and skil for skill if they were to be the same weight, crawford beats inoue. Inoue has many bad habits like leaping forward with his jabs, no active guard, basic probing and is not as technically sound with his counters. He has been getting away with it due to his opponents being slower and fighting scared.

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            • JOITATS
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              #86
              Crawford has made a career of beating guys with lesser reach.

              Inoue is doing the opposite while continuously moving up, facing bigger, longer opponents, and winning titles.

              I think Bud is amazing, but I think Inoue is a greater definition of P4P.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Silence
                I already rank him #1 since defeated Donaire in two rounds. Now, he is solidly #1. Beat much bigger dosser in Fulton.

                P4P #1 war would be between him and Canelo when Canelo clears PBC.
                - - When did you finally see the LIGHT?

                The Monster clear #1, so let the riffraff fight it out for the other 9 places…

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  Terence Crawford amateur record: 25 wins 11 losses only 2 KOs = 8% KO ratio Naoya Inoue amateur record 75 wins 6 losses with 48 KOs = 64% KO ratio And these are 3 rounds 3 mins each. And Naoya KO’d 64% of them even with the thicker padded amateur gloves and headgear on. So if Crawford is that good, why isn’t his amateur record like that then??? Hmm?

                  The above I copied and paste from yt vid, not my research or words
                  I always thought Crawford is limited POS. His amateur record proves that. He just needs to fight a good defensive fighter. When his counters gets missed, he is over.

                  He has lucky professional record with past prime opponents.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Silence
                    I already rank him #1 since defeated Donaire in two rounds. Now, he is solidly #1. Beat much bigger dosser in Fulton.

                    P4P #1 war would be between him and Canelo when Canelo clears PBC.
                    Well this post certainly didn't age well because it's Terence Bud Crawford all day and everyday!

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Terence Crawford amateur record: 25 wins 11 losses only 2 KOs = 8% KO ratio Naoya Inoue amateur record 75 wins 6 losses with 48 KOs = 64% KO ratio And these are 3 rounds 3 mins each. And Naoya KO’d 64% of them even with the thicker padded amateur gloves and headgear on. So if Crawford is that good, why isn’t his amateur record like that then??? Hmm?

                      The above I copied and paste from yt vid, not my research or words
                      If Crawford had 1 amateur fight, I wouldn't care or use that in anyway to gauge how great he has been as a pro. They're two totally different ball games. There have been fighters who as a pro are considered monster punchers and in the amateurs, they barely scored KOs. What happens in amateurs doesn't always translate into going pro. No head gear on, smaller gloves will change up your entire game.

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