Comments Thread For: Naoya Inoue Drops, Stops Stephen Fulton In 8th Round To Become Four-Division Champion

[richardt]

I was pulling for Steph and naturally disappointed to see Steph get knocked out. I thought he started to get into a better grove for a few moments as I was hoping he would be able to make his mark in the fight. He had a great run, but I don't think it is over. I think he can pick up the pieces and win more titles. That's what I'm hoping for his career to continue at a high level. But damn, that was a nightmare machine that he was in with. I can see Inoue obliterating this division and the next one up. His reaction time and power are amazing. But it is a sad state when so many racially triggered statements are made on this boxing board. I can't keep up with them all. No restraint on harmful words coming out of people.

[SteveM]

Inoue has very quick hands and feet, and the power speaks for itself. He's going to be hard to beat.

Lee Woods is no.1 at 126 or maybe Robeisy. Woods just get out-boxed. I think Ramirez could pose problems - at some point Inoue's power just won't carry - I think it will to 126 but not to 130. Inou vs Figueroa looks like a mismatch on size.

Oscar Valdez at 130 would be a very tough matchup. Maybe Navarette would just swarm him.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Gauntlet definitely thrown down. Four division champ across weight classes spanning 5 divisions, 20-0(18) in title fights, went straight for the unquestioned #1 guy in the weight class as the smaller guy, and dominated him decisively. Power clearly carried up to 122. Spence or Crawford winning a close fight isn't to be enough to unseat him as #1 in my book. That's a massive achievement. Bud is the only one who really has a chance IMO as he could be first to double undisputed, and he's also the smaller fighter. Usyk would also have a shot if Fury would ever fight him.

But even then, Inoue is just steamrolling the best guys across the weight divisions. The other guys aren't making it look this easy. I wish Chocolatito hadn't ducked him. That's would have been an epic fight.

[SteveM]

Pound for pound is a really strange concept because if everyone was the same size you, would have to take away a lot of attributes from fighters

put 20lbs on Inoue, he wont be as fast anymore.

Let's say Spence is 122lbs instead of 147lbs, he's no longer as physically strong

A beterbiev at 147 lbs doesn't have the same power as he does at 175

I understand people say it's all relative and it would be relative to the weight they're at if they're all the same size but relativity isn't linear, theres way too many variables for it to be linear.

A big part of what makes a fighter fight how they do is their natural physical construct, biomechanics wtc...and if you change that, they're not the same person anymore, thus not knowing if they would be a good fighter or not if they were essentially different person who was naturally much bigger or smaller than they are as we know them.

In short, pound for pound is a lot of nonsense that can't be measured factually and makes no scientific sense. So it comes favouritism or whose achievements you like.

But scientifically it makes no sense because you would essentially be requiring people to be a completely different person with a different physical construct and completely different biomechanics. all that would remain the same would be their name...

I agree with your deconstruct of the "if they were all the same size" argument - mostly anyway. But you then dismiss achievements as as a means to arrive at a P4P list. Achievements can be objectively measured if you take the boxrec stats literally. But you can also mix in actual results/resume and common sense too.

It's a question of who did you fight, how did you beat them, when did you fight them (ie were they shot or post prime or just prospects or coming off a bad loss), how long did this last for - ie were you a 2 year flash in the pan or a ten year phenom, and how many weight classes did you conquer.

All of that can be discussed and debated by reasonable boxing fans. Favoritism has no place in such a discussion - or if it does then just don't even discuss it.

It's a lot of work to take all of that on board but I'd suggest Inoue with this latest victory is passing all of those criteria. More so than Usyk and personally I don't rate Spence as highly as others as he has fought legit good fighters at 147 but apart from Mikey hasn't dominated them like Inoue. Bud has moved through 3 weight classes and a win over Spence makes him dominant in 3 weight classes which is really something.

[Oldskoolg]

What always fascinates me, and infuriates me, is that the richest people and businesses, giving political power to these *******s who feel immigration is such a problem, are the same people employing immigrants! People who live near Poultry Plants and Farms are the loudest, but they don't take it out on the employer, they take it out on the employees! Look at Florida! The same businesses who put Ron DeSantis in power, are now complaining for lack of immigrant workers! Lol!

So we are having our backyard at my main Texas property redone, costing over half of what I initially paid for that property. The company is owned by a white American bloke originally from Arizona but the entire work crew and even the contractors are all Mexican, and not Mexican Americans, Mexican. The only one who can speak English is the foreman and it’s heavily accented. It makes me want infer how many folk have used this company yet vote for people who demonise this lot

[Oldskoolg]

I was pulling for Steph and naturally disappointed to see Steph get knocked out. I thought he started to get into a better grove for a few moments as I was hoping he would be able to make his mark in the fight. He had a great run, but I don't think it is over. I think he can pick up the pieces and win more titles. That's what I'm hoping for his career to continue at a high level. But damn, that was a nightmare machine that he was in with. I can see Inoue obliterating this division and the next one up. His reaction time and power are amazing. But it is a sad state when so many racially triggered statements are made on this boxing board. I can't keep up with them all. No restraint on harmful words coming out of people.

He fought too timid mate, I think he saw the jab and the hand speed and thought there was no way he was going to win and tried to make it to the final bell. But that’s just not going to work against the monster, he’s too relentless. I think Figueroa actually has the best shot to beat him based on style..he will bully the monster

[Oldskoolg]

Give it a rest man black people can be just as racist on here i've seen it myself dismissing Inoue because he's asian, all the ldbc channels on youtube and you very rarely see black fighters pick against other black fighters but as usual it's all white people because "blacks cannot be racist" there is wrong on both sides yet you are the one fixated on "white racists" look around and see it's not a one way street.

Might I suggest you stop obsessing with the blacks, stop arguing with them on YouTube, stop trying to control black men altogether, and ultimately stop investing too much of your psyche to the internet. Social media doesn’t sound like something you can process in a healthy manner and it’s turned you into an angry bitter internet troll

[FannonOG]

Naoya's loaded gloves were the difference. Fight should be a NC.

[Kzbox]

Might I suggest you stop obsessing with the blacks, stop arguing with them on YouTube, stop trying to control black men altogether, and ultimately stop investing too much of your psyche to the internet. Social media doesn’t sound like something you can process in a healthy manner and it’s turned you into an angry bitter internet troll

So because i point how you are factually wrong you say i'm obsessed with blacks? so are you obsessed with racist white people or something then? It is what is it is people from all races are/can be racist against each other you are the one fixated on only white people when there is countless evidence on here of black folks being racists towards other races but that doesn't count i take it. I don't have any social media so you can forget about that cop out i deleted Facebook like 5 + years ago never had twitter/instagram.

You have nothing man just deflecting from my point and coming up with outlandish reasons for why i would think this way as if it's unfathomable to see it here or through natural reasons get a grip.

[THC]

This man is a beast. Honestly I thought he'd have trouble with Fulton's ring IQ, but Inoue was up to the task. That compact, devastating right reminds me of Tszyu. Set it up beautifully with that jab to the stomach from the get go.

Being the bigger man with the longer reach, I think Fulton felt he was faster as well, and with those advantages, he'd control the fight from the outside. But after the first round, I saw a concerned look on his face when he realized he was NOT faster and he was NOT the better boxer. He really underestimated how fast Inoue can bridge the gap.