Why are brits still interested in Joshua?

[kafkod]

This is a BS narrative. He trained boxing for a few months and never had a single boxing match. Hes probably better than a decent percentage of the guys on Furys record. Theres a grand total of two (Yoka and Takam) HWs in his adopted country of France that would beat him, zero in his home country of Cameroon.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Bookmakers and boxing promoters love guys like you!

It takes talent plus years of experience and dedication to become a world class boxer.

This is Joe Joyce's manager giving his opinion of Ngannou's chances against Fury after watching some sparring sessions between Francis and Joe.This guy has no horse in the race and no reason to be biased against Ngannou.

There is a reason why nobody who knows anything about boxing is giving Ngannou any more than a lottery ticket holder's chance of winning against Fury .... except for the people who are looking to make money from gullible guys like you.

[TMLT87]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Bookmakers and boxing promoters love guys like you!

It takes talent plus years of experience and dedication to become a world class boxer.

This is Joe Joyce's manager giving his opinion of Ngannou's chances against Fury after watching some sparring sessions between Francis and Joe.This guy has no horse in the race and no reason to be biased against Ngannou.

Who said anything about his chances against Fury ie literally the no1 HW on the planet?

You are jumping to that from saying Ngannou was "useless" in a boxing ring and went to MMA because of that. Theres quite a bit of distance between those two extremes.

[kafkod]

There is no path to victory. The way AJ is fighting and his level of confidence. It's not only meaningless, and it's boring.

The Ngannou fight will not be boring. He is about 3x stronger than Fury, which is a strength discrepancy we've never seen in boxing. Like Tony Bellew said: a freak show.

Both these guys are about 3x stronger than Nganou. Do you think either would be competitive with him in an MMA fight?
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[kafkod]

Who said anything about his chances against Fury ie literally the no1 HW on the planet?

You are jumping to that from saying Ngannou was "useless" in a boxing ring and went to MMA because of that. Theres quite a bit of distance between those two extremes.

Ok, I'll take back "useless" and just say that we wasn't very good. He said himself that his first and biggest ambition was to become a world boxing champion ... but he ended up going into MMA without having any fights in the ring.

Why do you think that was?

[kafkod]

Who said anything about his chances against Fury ie literally the no1 HW on the planet?

The guy I was replying to in my comment.

[TMLT87]

Ok, I'll take back "useless" and just say that we wasn't very good. He said himself that his first and biggest ambition was to become a world boxing champion ... but he ended up going into MMA without having any fights in the ring.

Why do you think that was?

If you've only trained for a few months and never had any fights you're never gonna know how good or bad you might have been. Him going to MMA was mostly circumstantial. He was a 26 year old homeless illegal immigrant who met some MMA guys who let him train for free. Of course i'm sure he probably also realised that at that stage in his life if he was gonna "make it" in combat it would probably be a better (and quicker) bet trying to get noticed by the UFC, for various reasons. I dont think that really qualifies him as some failed boxer or something though. Also, I mean look at Lucas Browne, he was getting finished by D level guys in MMA, then focused on boxing and managed to make the top 10 at one point. Whyte was a kickboxer who dabbled in MMA then went to boxing too. Jarrell Miller almost bagged that AJ payday and a title shot (if he hadnt been such a dumbass) and he is a guy who lost twice in kickboxing to a 40 year old Cro Cop who had recently been cut from the UFC after getting KO'd three times in a row. Imo Ngannou is far more gifted than any of those guys in terms of athleticism and power.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Why OP soil himself about boxing?

Plenty other Sports like Wrestling or Beach Volleyball easier to understand for infantile intellects.

[kafkod]

If you've only trained for a few months and never had any fights you're never gonna know how good or bad you might have been. Him going to MMA was mostly circumstantial. He was a 26 year old homeless illegal immigrant who met some MMA guys who let him train for free. Of course i'm sure he probably also realised that at that stage in his life if he was gonna "make it" in combat it would probably be a better (and quicker) bet trying to get noticed by the UFC, for various reasons. I dont think that really qualifies him as some failed boxer or something though. Also, I mean look at Lucas Browne, he was getting finished by D level guys in MMA, then focused on boxing and managed to make the top 10 at one point. Whyte was a kickboxer who dabbled in MMA then went to boxing too. Jarrell Miller almost bagged that AJ payday and a title shot (if he hadnt been such a dumbass) and he is a guy who lost twice in kickboxing to a 40 year old Cro Cop who had recently been cut from the UFC after getting KO'd three times in a row. Imo Ngannou is far more gifted than any of those guys in terms of athleticism and power.

Ngannou is not a boxer though, and it takes more than athleticism and power to become a decent boxer, let alone a world champion. It takes years of dedication. That's the point I'm making. I'm also calling bull**** on the narrative that Francis became so dominant in MMA because he has innate boxing ability. At grass roots level, in Africa, boxing is way bigger and more popular than MMA. If Francis had boxing talent, as well as size and power, that would have been noticed, doors would have opened for him, and he would never have gone into MMA.

Browne, Miller and Whyte are all boxers who I would say lack innate boxing talent, but made decent careers for themselves in the ring via physical strength, determination, and years of dedicated training. (plus a little chemical assistance, lol)

If Francis had shown the same level of dedication to the sport as those 3 guys, he would maybe have reached the same kind of level as them. But he would never have dominated HW boxing like he dominated UFC.

[Noelanthony]

Brits are cucks by nature. They like AJ because he is the man they want to be.

Similar to the whole Adam22 and Jason Luv thing

Let me guess you want to be Andy Ruiz or Charles Martin?

[Noelanthony]

Joshuas stock has dropped significantly in the UK. Hes back at the 20k capacity 02 arena for this fight for the first time since 2016.

He fought at the 02 his last fight