Comments Thread For: Usyk Promoter Calls for Fury to Be Stripped of WBC Title Ahead of Rumored Ngannou Exhibition

[_Rexy_]

Holyfield is one of the greatest of his generation, but he struggled plenty at the HW level. Several mid-range HW's made Holyfield work for the win, and Holyfield lost to a much inferior John Ruiz, could not finish an aged -shell of himself Larry Holmes, and had to work to beat such "greats" as Vaughn Bean. I am a HUGE Holyfield fan, but subjecting Usyk to a comparison of one of the greats simply because they were both CW champs first is silly and not even accurate. Every great struggles to win against a fighter they should dominate, and 99% of boxers lose.

Usyk's story is still being written. If he ends up as second only to EH as a CW who moved up to HW and KO'd the VIPs of his generation, that is OK and HOF worthy ASAP..

I seem to recall Holy being bartered by Burt Cooper too. Guys have insane revisionist history.

[_Rexy_]

Usyk accepted 30/70 on the condition he get a rematch. Fury did not want a rematch but agreed to it as long as they recieved a 50/50 split for the rematch.
Usyk declined and said the rematch would have to be 70/30 for the winner or no deal.
That's obviously a ridiculous offer and a deal wasn't reached.
Klimas and Warren have both confirmed this.

Usyk kept adding conditions after allegedly accepting the 30/70 deal.

The rematch clause was put in there by Fury’s team, not Usyks. Usyk just said he deserved 70/30 instead of 50/50 in the rematch if he won.

so then Fury & Frank removed the rematch clause and said that’s what the whole argument was over.

[bullydean]

You're just desperately making excuses for the Tipsy one bcs you can't admit you were wrong about him all along. You have no facts, only desperate attempt to twist the obvious. Being in denial isn't solved by reading "articles". Fury is the biggest clown in the history of boxing. Ducking everyone left and right and fighting a debutant Twist it all you want, you will convince no one.

There are no excuses simply confirmed information. You're the one desperate to follow a narrative hence the reason you react to headlines.

Sorry if you can't read, but that's why actually reading articles is important buddy.

[max baer]

The headline is misleading.

It sounds like he was asked by the interviewer a leading question of whether he thought Fury should be stripped.

His direct answer is quoted in the body of the article itself, and is clearly a no: "No, I don’t think it (Fury’s belt) should be relinquished. He can be stripped only for one reason, if he does not comply with WBC rules. But according to my understanding he does [comply]. He fought Whyte for the mandatory and now they have to appoint him a new mandatory because the new mandatory has not been appointed. He’s not actually breaking any rule of the WBC."

Where he goes on to talk about stripping him is in the context of "in an ideal world", with regard to sports, boxing and cheating the fans. It is, effectively, a way of pouring scorn on the purported Ngannou fight.... And rightly so.

ali did some exhibitions in the 70's i recall one mixed fight the guy just lay on the floor trying to kick him and it was silly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS6JN8VQGy0

i think you gotta try out these things.

[letsgochump]

There are no excuses simply confirmed information. You're the one desperate to follow a narrative hence the reason you react to headlines.

Sorry if you can't read, but that's why actually reading articles is important buddy.

Simply no. You’re just buying the Tipsy Excuses bcs you like the love handles or smth. Each to their own i guess.

[bullydean]

The rematch clause was put in there by Fury’s team, not Usyks. Usyk just said he deserved 70/30 instead of 50/50 in the rematch if he won.

so then Fury & Frank removed the rematch clause and said that’s what the whole argument was over.

Fury wanted a rematch clause before the 70/30 split. They threw out the rematch clause once Usyk accepted the 70/30 split. Warren confirmed this.

After the 70/30 crap Usyk wanted a rematch which Fury didn't want but agreed to it if the rematch was a 50/50 split. Both Klimas and Warren confirmed this as well. The negotiations ended after Fury rejected the 70/30 split for the rematch.

[bullydean]

Simply no. You’re just buying the Tipsy Excuses bcs you like the love handles or smth. Each to their own i guess.

Yeah Klimas also confirming what I've said is excuses lol

[crimsonfalcon07]

Fury wanted a rematch clause before the 70/30 split. They threw out the rematch clause once Usyk accepted the 70/30 split. Warren confirmed this.

After the 70/30 crap Usyk wanted a rematch which Fury didn't want but agreed to it if the rematch was a 50/50 split. Both Klimas and Warren confirmed this as well. The negotiations ended after Fury rejected the 70/30 split for the rematch.

I actually don't think Usyk wanted a rematch as much as he just wanted to have the contract signed. Since Warren had already put the rematch in, he wanted Fury to just stop playing games and changing the contract. If he'd agreed to no rematch, the next thing you know, Fury would be asking for it to be put back in. Fury changes his mind 60 times a minute anyways, and was clearly trying to sink the fight.

The ridiculous thing is that Fury was fighting for the LOSER to get a bigger split than he said the undefeated unified champion was worth for the first fight, and if he'd just taken Usyk's terms for the rematch, he would have stood to get 70 in BOTH fights. Instead he was fighting to get less money in the rematch if he won. And his fans have the nerve to say Usyk was being greedy for demanding more money to the winner of the rematch, who would be the undefeated undisputed champion. It's like they all secretly are thinking in the back of their minds that it would be Fury getting the 30 because he's going to lose.

[bullydean]

I actually don't think Usyk wanted a rematch as much as he just wanted to have the contract signed. Since Warren had already put the rematch in, he wanted Fury to just stop playing games and changing the contract. If he'd agreed to no rematch, the next thing you know, Fury would be asking for it to be put back in. Fury changes his mind 60 times a minute anyways, and was clearly trying to sink the fight.

The ridiculous thing is that Fury was fighting for the LOSER to get a bigger split than he said the undefeated unified champion was worth for the first fight, and if he'd just taken Usyk's terms for the rematch, he would have stood to get 70 in BOTH fights. Instead he was fighting to get less money in the rematch if he won. And his fans have the nerve to say Usyk was being greedy for demanding more money to the winner of the rematch, who would be the undefeated undisputed champion. It's like they all secretly are thinking in the back of their minds that it would be Fury getting the 30 because he's going to lose.

If Usyk wanted the fight to go through he should have accepted the one fight 70/30 deal.
Fury wanted a rematch with the original negotiations. Once Usyk claimed to have accepted the 70/30 deal Fury thew out the rematch so that he could get the AJ paycheck win or lose.

Usyk was the one demanding more conditions after he "accepted" the 70/30 split.

[crimsonfalcon07]

If Usyk wanted the fight to go through he should have accepted the one fight 70/30 deal.
Fury wanted a rematch with the original negotiations. Once Usyk claimed to have accepted the 70/30 deal Fury thew out the rematch so that he could get the AJ paycheck win or lose.

Usyk was the one demanding more conditions after he "accepted" the 70/30 split.

That's not even a little bit true. Fury wanted the rematch. Then he didn't. Then he agreed to have it in again. Then they had a dispute over split for the rematch, in which Fury wanted more for the LOSER.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1360150/tyson-fury-no-rematch-clause-oleskandr-usyk-fight/

Usyk pulled out at that point because the changes and demands were endless.

He could have accepted 70/30 no rematch, and Fury would still have killed the fight over ring size or glove brand, or weigh in time, etc. He said specifically it wasn't about the amount, it was about respect and not playing any more games.

https://boxing-social.com/news/usyk-respect-was-reason-for-fury-collapse/

He wasn't getting any AJ paycheck because he already screwed AJ over on previous failed negotiations. Nobody takes him seriously any more.