is pac 1 of the greatest hispanic boxer of all time?

[ThePunchingBag]

my aunt makes the best empanadas.

you like chicharron?

i love pork.

haven't had lechon in forever.

we need to throw a fiesta.

you gonna be around my barrio any time soon?

Haha you kidding me? Everything in here is Mexican not Spanish. Too bad you don't know your own history.

[No Ceiling]

ThePunchingBag is not even a pinoy? i thought he is because of his knowledge of philippines

[street bully]

ThePunchingBag is not even a pinoy? i thought he is because of his knowledge of philippines

I liked your old avatar more.

[Bogler]

When I say Spanish culture I mean particularly the foods, celebrations, customs and artwork etc.. Can you name any Spanish influenced celebrations, food, customs in the Philippines?

i wanna make clear first that im not for filipinos being called hispanics. but just to answer your question, we have 'flores de mayo', santa cruzan, a lot of religious events like semana santa, misa de gallo, fiestas for the saints, etc. foods like mechado, asado, menudo, afritada, chicharon, empanada, arroz caldo, arroz valenciana, paella and so many more. even if i didnt study history, but from the sound of these, i would think they're spanish origins.

[nujabes77]

lolz serious business here....






who ***n cares? really

[WhoreUs]

Haha you kidding me? Everything in here is Mexican not Spanish. Too bad you don't know your own history.

i thought mexicans were hispanic.

can't mexican influenced be hispanic.

[nycbgdogg]

The Philippines, in terms of it's Spanish integration was much different than Mexico or the Carribean Islands. Intermarriage between Spaniards and Indigenous people sometimes occurred, but wasn't very common as it was in the Americas. A very small minority of intermarriage, and inter-breeding took place between the two ethnic groups in the Philippines and usually only to Indigenous people of high status like the daughters of wealthy landowners. That is why there is very little mixed race Filipinos living in the Philippines today and is also why a lot of wealthy Filipinos have Spanish blood.

The reason why the Philippines didn't adopt as much of the Spanish culture as Mexico and the Islands did was because they were being governed only indirectly by Spain through the more regionally closer Mexican Government. It turns out that whatever culture the Filipinos absorbed during their time as a colony is actually more Mexican than Spanish.

Again, you seem to be writing and interpreting your OWN views of history which is not based on fact...

Yes, it is true that Philippines was a political/cultural/social periphery of Mexico, Acapulco to be exact, but you fail to point out that all countries colonized by Spain in the 16th century fell on the same jurisdiction due to its position as Spain's power center of the new world... So your, theory of cultural absorption is skewed... Everything if not most in the old world went through Mexico, so does that mean, everything aborbed by Colombians was really Mexican and not Spanish??? You really have a funny way of thinking, bro...

Your integration "thoery" is plain wrong. As you pointed out, Acapulco, the base of Spanish colonial rule, was quite far from Philippines which was a factor in the increase of Spanish immigration... In addition, Philippines, unlike other colonies, was never fully subdued and revolts were common.. Entire regions of the South of Philippines were always defiant to Spanish authority.

Low numbers of Spanish immigration, coupled with constant and consitant political/social upheaval equal very low "interbreading"...

As I said, Filipinos fought toothe and nail to be where were at right now... Let me ask you a question, how come you dont see too many Tainos or Carribs now a days or even hear their language??? Because, those that didnt succumb and integrate were simply slaughtered by Spain... We, Filipinos, fought for 400 years and we eventually won... Can you say that about any Hispanic country???

[nujabes77]

ThePunchingBag is not even a pinoy? i thought he is because of his knowledge of philippines

hes albino

[WhoreUs]

who ***n cares? really

the historian that dated a filipina-american for a month.

i'm out.

i've had 5 thai chicks give me blow jobs. i'm off to go argue with some thai dudes about their culture.

[ThePunchingBag]

Lol.... Did you not read my last posts??? Or are you just selectively ignoring them???

Did I not enlighten you to the fact that up until the Philippine/American War and de facto up until the 1960's the OFFICIAL LANGUAGE was SPANISH???

Our national hero, Jose Rizal's most famous works were written in ****en SPANISH....lol... My father and millions of other students stagged protests, sitins, demonstrations, etc...and were arrested in their college days in the 60's in order to abolish SPANISH in schools and public institutions.... So please dont tell me that Philippines doesnt speak Spanish....

Like I said, by your very definition we can be desribed as "hispanic", but it is simply a slap in the face to all of those ancestors that fought to keep our own identity intact...

Really tho, you dont know what your talking about, people with indian (mexicans), taino (puerto rican) ancestry, is still considered "hispanic" as long as some Spanish cultural aspects have been embraced, ie Spanish language...

The problem you seem to have is that "hispanic" is very general and not very exclusive as to demand particular requirements such as direct descendency to the Iberian Penninsula... Current accepted definitions does not require that but merely some level of Spanish cultural crossover...

Comprende?

Apparently you did not understand when I said that although a COUNTRY is considered Hispanic, an INDIVIDUAL is not considered Hispanic if they have NO Spanish blood. Although I admire what your family had done in the 1960's against the Nacionalista party much of the educational system was being converted into English already by U.S. government decree. The MAJORITY of the Philippines speaks Tagalog not Spanish. Spanish last names come from the Catholic religion which is Roman not Spanish. By your definition of Hispanic, If I were a Japanese man born in Mexico I'd be considered Hispanic.....