Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury on Joshua: I Will Annihilate That Motherf-----, Not Man Enough To Fight Me

[crimsonfalcon07]

I really dont get this. Can you explain the terms more cleary i hadnt heard about this.

Fury thought he should get 70% if he wins and if he lost 50%? And Usyk just wanted it to be 70 in favor of whoever wins?

Honeslty, if this is true, I dont blame fury for the fight not happening then. Fury is the draw here. I mean, it wouldn't it be really strange if they had the same terms? The bigger draw always gets the bigger piece of pie, that happens in every fight, right? Usyk shoulda accepted those terms

So the first fight was 70 to Fury as the "A-side", leaving aside the fact that Usyk is the unified champ with all the belts except the WBC. Usyk agreed to only 30%. Fury's team had put in a rematch that was agreed to. When Usyk agreed to a 70/30 split in Fury's favor, Fury then tried to pull out over the bilateral rematch clause. Warren eventually talked him around and they were negotiating the split for the rematch. Usyk proposed that it would be 70 to the winner of the first fight. So, if Fury won, he'd have gotten 70 in the first fight, and 70 again in the second fight.

But Fury insisted that the second fight be 50/50, even though the loser would be a defeated contender and the winner would be the first undisputed heavyweight champion in years, and even though he stood to make more money if he won accepting Usyk's proposal. He was making a stink over the loser's cut.

Not sure how that makes more sense. The only way it would have been better for Fury would be if he LOST the first fight. Otherwise Usyk's proposal would have given Fury A-side money in both fights, and all he'd need to do is beat the "jumped up middleweight" that he said he could beat without even a camp. Maybe he's not as confident as he's pretending, eh?

Usyk pulled out because Fury was making one obstacle after another, and said "even if I agree to this, when will it end? There's always something more." Fury fans are flat out ****** if they think the fight would have happened if Usyk had agreed to 50/50 in the rematch. There would have been more and more crap. Likely Usyk would have had to weigh in at 201 and with a rehydration clause or some ****** thing. Or Fury would have been making a stink about ring size. He's made a huge fuss about everything in EVERY major fight he's ever been in.

And, the winner of the first fight will be the undefeated UNDISPUTED champion of the world. If Usyk wins, it will be a David v Goliath moment, since he's a huge underdog, and he'll be two time undisputed, one of only two ever (or three if Inoue beats Tapales). The winner will be the A-side.

Or, put another way, if Fury wins, why would Usyk have been entitled to only 30 as the undefeated unified champion, but then to 50 as a defeated contender? Why was Fury fighting to give Usyk more money? Everyone else knows this is a duck, especially when he's ducked all the top contenders and is fighting a guy in his boxing debut.

[billeau2]

Ahh at long last the Gypsy King is back!! Oh wait...

[Bostonfear]

So the first fight was 70 to Fury as the "A-side", leaving aside the fact that Usyk is the unified champ with all the belts except the WBC. Usyk agreed to only 30%. Fury's team had put in a rematch that was agreed to. When Usyk agreed to a 70/30 split in Fury's favor, Fury then tried to pull out over the bilateral rematch clause. Warren eventually talked him around and they were negotiating the split for the rematch. Usyk proposed that it would be 70 to the winner of the first fight. So, if Fury won, he'd have gotten 70 in the first fight, and 70 again in the second fight.

But Fury insisted that the second fight be 50/50, even though the loser would be a defeated contender and the winner would be the first undisputed heavyweight champion in years, and even though he stood to make more money if he won accepting Usyk's proposal. He was making a stink over the loser's cut.

Not sure how that makes more sense. The only way it would have been better for Fury would be if he LOST the first fight. Otherwise Usyk's proposal would have given Fury A-side money in both fights, and all he'd need to do is beat the "jumped up middleweight" that he said he could beat without even a camp. Maybe he's not as confident as he's pretending, eh?

Usyk pulled out because Fury was making one obstacle after another, and said "even if I agree to this, when will it end? There's always something more." Fury fans are flat out ****** if they think the fight would have happened if Usyk had agreed to 50/50 in the rematch. There would have been more and more crap. Likely Usyk would have had to weigh in at 201 and with a rehydration clause or some ****** thing. Or Fury would have been making a stink about ring size. He's made a huge fuss about everything in EVERY major fight he's ever been in.

And, the winner of the first fight will be the undefeated UNDISPUTED champion of the world. If Usyk wins, it will be a David v Goliath moment, since he's a huge underdog, and he'll be two time undisputed, one of only two ever (or three if Inoue beats Tapales). The winner will be the A-side.

Or, put another way, if Fury wins, why would Usyk have been entitled to only 30 as the undefeated unified champion, but then to 50 as a defeated contender? Why was Fury fighting to give Usyk more money? Everyone else knows this is a duck, especially when he's ducked all the top contenders and is fighting a guy in his boxing debut.

So the reason it fell apart was money for the rematch? Dang.

I know you will disagree with me. But I am sure the Saudis gave way more money to Joshua for the rematch than they did Usyk.

I dunno, these are huge huge fights. And Fury is undeniably the draw here. Accomplisments and belts arent the point. Fury is the way bigger draw.

50/50 for a huge fight in the rematch against a guy who is the main draw like Tyson, sounds pretty good. One of looking at it is, its Fury's fault. But Fury is the guy who brings most of the money in.

Floyd always had rematch clauses, and always still got most of the money in the rematch terms.

I look at more like Usk shoulda taken the deal. 50% of a huge rematch while making history. And you're just not the a side. Instead of looking at like Fury ruined it over 20%, I look at as Usky being the one to ruin it for that 20%

[crimsonfalcon07]

So the reason it fell apart was money for the rematch? Dang.

I know you will disagree with me. But I am sure the Saudis gave way more money to Joshua for the rematch than they did Usyk.

I dunno, these are huge huge fights. And Fury is undeniably the draw here. Accomplisments and belts arent the point. Fury is the way bigger draw.

50/50 for a huge fight in the rematch against a guy who is the main draw like Tyson, sounds pretty good. One of looking at it is, its Fury's fault. But Fury is the guy who brings most of the money in.

Floyd always had rematch clauses, and always still got most of the money in the rematch terms.

I look at more like Usk shoulda taken the deal. 50% of a huge rematch while making history. And you're just not the a side. Instead of looking at like Fury ruined it over 20%, I look at as Usky being the one to ruin it for that 20%

No, it was the accumulation of one thing after another.

What do you call it when a fighter tries to price himself out of a fight? A duck. Fury asked for so much money that the Saudis said they'd lose money on the event even if Usyk fought for free.

What do you call it when someone offers an unreasonable split? A duck. That's the 70/30 offer. Fury wasn't expecting Usyk to accept.

What do you call it when someone demands that a clause requested by their own side gets removed or they pull out of the fight? A duck.

What do you call it when someone threatens to pull out of a fight over the cut for the loser in the rematch? A duck.

If it wasn't the split for the rematch, it would have been something else. Fury didn't want the fight. Any one of those things have killed fights for him in the past that he didn't want.

[ProblemChild_JakePaul]

I won't be surprised if Fury never fights again.