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  • #21
    Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
    The hype for the fight has already started. Whyte was no chosen because he is dangerous and a win against him will elevate AJ's position. He was chosen because they will sell this fight domestically like some grudge or a dangerous fight. Next thing you know there is a trilogy with this.
    Sadly, whether or not this is actually Matchroom’s plan, this post is probably going to prove to be quite prescient.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

      Is Anthony Joshua a World Champion? No.

      Joshua is now a contender, and he is fighting another contender in Whyte.

      And for your information, Whyte vs Joshua is not a British level fight.

      The rankings don't indicate that it is a British level fight mate 'But I know you was trying to be smart with that comment'.

      Anthony Joshua is a World level fighter 'Joshua is ranked number 3 by the Ring Heavyweight rankings, Number 2 by the WBO, Number 4 by the IBF, Number 3 by the WBC, and Number 3 by the WBA,

      Whyte is ranked number 6 by the WBC, Number 8 by the IBF.​

      Note: Whyte vs Joshua I was a British level fight, as it was for the British title. Whyte vs Joshua II, is objectively a World level fight 'Not a Super high level fight, but for sure it is a World level fight'.

      Although on recent form, I barely rate Whyte at World level 'That is just my personal ratings'.

      There is jeopardy involved in the fight, for both fighters 'And especially Joshua' etc.












      lol, did he hurt your feelings? Nobody cares where either one are "ranked". They both suck. AJ has emotional issues and Whyte has always just plain ******. Povetkin dropped him like a bag of laundry. Then Greedy Belly. Now it will be AJ's turn to show the world that Edward can still churn the organ grinder. Crappy matchup.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
        The hype for the fight has already started. Whyte was no chosen because he is dangerous and a win against him will elevate AJ's position. He was chosen because they will sell this fight domestically like some grudge or a dangerous fight. Next thing you know there is a trilogy with this.
        Not many fighters have the nerve to win twice and then make a trilogy fight.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

          Is Anthony Joshua a World Champion? No.

          Joshua is now a contender, and he is fighting another contender in Whyte.

          And for your information, Whyte vs Joshua is not a British level fight.

          The rankings don't indicate that it is a British level fight mate 'But I know you was trying to be smart with that comment'.

          Anthony Joshua is a World level fighter 'Joshua is ranked number 3 by the Ring Heavyweight rankings, Number 2 by the WBO, Number 4 by the IBF, Number 3 by the WBC, and Number 3 by the WBA,

          Whyte is ranked number 6 by the WBC, Number 8 by the IBF.​

          Note: Whyte vs Joshua I was a British level fight, as it was for the British title. Whyte vs Joshua II, is objectively a World level fight 'Not a Super high level fight, but for sure it is a World level fight'.

          Although on recent form, I barely rate Whyte at World level 'That is just my personal ratings'.

          There is jeopardy involved in the fight, for both fighters 'And especially Joshua' etc.












          I don’t care about the rankings in this weak era of heavyweights. Whyte has proven to not be an elite fighter and it’s pretty clear that Joshua was always overrated he isn’t very good and is clearly a mental
          midget who can’t deal with adversity.
          Last edited by Jab jab boom; 07-07-2023, 08:30 AM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by AmpMcv View Post

            lol, did he hurt your feelings? Nobody cares where either one are "ranked". They both suck. AJ has emotional issues and Whyte has always just plain ******. Povetkin dropped him like a bag of laundry. Then Greedy Belly. Now it will be AJ's turn to show the world that Edward can still churn the organ grinder. Crappy matchup.
            That information proves that Whyte vs Joshua II, is not a British level fight 'It is completely irrelevant, that you think? Nobody cares'.

            Whyte vs Joshua II, is not a British level fight. That is all I am saying mate.

            Both fighters are contenders, and they are both fighting each other 'I am not sure if you have noticed, but 95% of the match ups in boxing are between contenders. .

            You have just mentioned a few fighters there, two of them Joshua has already beaten via knock-out .

            Note: I agree mate, it is not the greatest of Heavyweight match ups and? I do think there are better fights out there for Joshua. I have always backed Ruiz Junior vs Joshua III, before? The potential Wilder fight was being planned, for Joshua's second comeback fight 'I believe Ruiz Junior would of been a great match up'.

            Joshua as a fighter by beating Ruiz Junior would of acquired a lot of momentum by beating Ruiz Junior again, especially of he beat him more violently in the third fight.

            Whyte vs Joshua II, a similar dynamic as? Both fighters have a genuine rivalry, and Whyte is going to come to win and is aggressive 'But Ruiz Junior would of been a higher level fight'.

            Still the only reason why you are complaining is because Anthony Joshua even as a contender is held to a extremely high standard 'His last two fights have pretty much been at a higher or equal level to Tyson Fury's who is the WBC World Heavyweight Champion' etc.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
              I don’t care about the rankings in this weak era of heavyweights. Whyte has proven to not be an elite fighter and it’s pretty clear that Joshua was always overrated he isn’t very good and is clearly a mental
              midget who can’t deal with adversity.
              At any given time in each division, there are very few elite level fighters.

              Joshua is a Olympic Champion, and former two time World Heavyweight Champion.

              Adversity? Joshua is still fighting mate, he is still here 'Your talking about him, he is attempting to deal with that adversity and challenges of boxing as we speak'.

              I agree Whyte has never been a elite level fighter, but well what is your point?

              I understand you are most likely a glory hunter, is that what it is 'Are you a Glory hunter mate?'.

              How do you rate yourself? Have you won everything in life and never lost?

              The reality of the situation mate, is that boxers win, sometimes boxers lose, the sport just like life 'Is a journey'.

              If you are that offended and bothered by this, then don't watch the sport etc.



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              • #27
                hearn trying to make stumble bum out to be some kind of dangerous killer, i think joshua is still good and could even improve again with a good win & a wilder fight is still interesting, especially if joshua blasts whyte out of there, which he has to do, its actually not a bad setup fight for wilder in saudi if thats the plan but joshua has to deliver bigtime, no faffing around
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                • #28
                  I can think of one potentially good thing about this fight. People seem to think Joshua is timid now. There's genuine animosity between these two. This fight could bring out the aggressive AJ. If that does happen and he wins impressively that would boost his confidence. A confident, aggressive AJ is a much more interesting proposition for potential fights with Wilder or Fury.

                  Or as Hearn says, the risk could backfire and he gets ktfo.

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                  • #29
                    Well, if you don't fight when you're supposed to fight of course you can lose. Fury is in danger of not getting usyk payday as usyk can lose to dubois!
                    What, you thought wilder and Josh could put off their fight for years and not lose in the meantime? That's naive.
                    Wilder has lost to fury, and maybe to Ruiz also?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                      Is Anthony Joshua a World Champion? No.

                      Joshua is now a contender, and he is fighting another contender in Whyte.

                      And for your information, Whyte vs Joshua is not a British level fight.

                      The rankings don't indicate that it is a British level fight mate 'But I know you was trying to be smart with that comment'.

                      Anthony Joshua is a World level fighter 'Joshua is ranked number 3 by the Ring Heavyweight rankings, Number 2 by the WBO, Number 4 by the IBF, Number 3 by the WBC, and Number 3 by the WBA,

                      Whyte is ranked number 6 by the WBC, Number 8 by the IBF.​

                      Note: Whyte vs Joshua I was a British level fight, as it was for the British title. Whyte vs Joshua II, is objectively a World level fight 'Not a Super high level fight, but for sure it is a World level fight'.

                      Although on recent form, I barely rate Whyte at World level 'That is just my personal ratings'.

                      There is jeopardy involved in the fight, for both fighters 'And especially Joshua' etc.












                      Good post Prince, an accurate read, IMO.

                      Boxing fans, bless em', are among the most critical in the world, and they are almost certainly the most ******. These characteristics being reflected in many of the posts regarding this choice of opponent.

                      It would be poor management to match anyone who is potentially heading to Saudi Arabia to settle title claims in December-March too heavy, and while rehashed Dillian Whyte in his twilight might peak the interest of Londoners, it's obviously generating quite a lot of criticism as well. I think a fresh face might have been better.

                      As for those claiming that Whyte is a no-hoper, I'd warn that Fury made him look far worse than he actually is, and that this choice could easily go VERY sideways for Hearn and Joshua.

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