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  • #31
    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

    Lmfao @ justifying those scorecards. **** outta here. Plant, Smith, Kovalev - All bigger than Bivol. Suddenly it's a problem


    And yes, top guys adapt. They don't "stick to the gameplan" for 12 rounds when they're getting beaten pillar to post.
    You sound like a bitter b*tch.....lol. Canelo had a close fight and lost. What are you his ex-girl friend. You want people to hate him as much as you do?.....lol.

    Plant & Smith are not bigger than Bivol...nice try. Kovalev was old as hell. Bivol is better than all 3 of them TODAY.....regardless. And he beat Canelo....something they couldn't do.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

      He did pick the easiest opponent. Benavidez, Morrell, Bivol.....No, out of left field picking the 154 guy who'd been inactive for over a year and had a fight already lined up.

      That's a cherry pick by YOUR definition.


      And for someone who claims they're not a Canelo fan, you sure are making a lot of posts, sticking up for him all emotional.
      Dumb ass, I don't have a definition of Cherry Picking..... It's only one definition of it and your corny ass don't know it apparently..... If your ****** ass can look passed your ignorance and hatred, you would know that Canelo offered Jermall Charlo the fight twice and was turned down.....TWICE. I honestly don't know how Jermell got the shot...but he has been calling for a fight vs Canelo/GGG just as much as his brother.

      And stop making up ****....Charlo didn't have a fight lined up. His ass was sitting and hoarding the belts just like his brother and workout brother (Spence).

      "For someone who claims they're not a Canelo fan"........you sound dumb. I'm not a Man Fan.....I'm a boxing fan.....I just hate ****** mfers like you who spend so much energy hating a mfer who doen't even know you exist. I follow the SPORT....not specific fighters. Only emotion in this conversation is your bitterness vs Canelo being that the facts hurt your feelings so much you are willing to fabricate things just to continue the argument.....

      I gave you nothing but facts, but you got butt hurt over them because they didn't run parallel with your agenda on Canelo......

      If you must have my OPINION.....My opinion is Canelo lost to Lara......My opinion is Canelo lost to GGG in the first fight.......My opinion is he's purposely not trying to fight Boo Boo......My opinion is Canelo needs to fight Benavidez.....Benavidez was stripped off his title, due to his own actions, but he never lost it.... I can't claim Canelo to be the top dog in the division if there is a guy who is standing there who he hasn't beaten, yet he's holding the title that this fighter had before being stripped.. Those are some of my opinions regarding Canelo, but my opinions don't mean **** when compared to what has actually occurred and what is happening now.........Once you realize how to separate your opinions from facts....it will be easier for you to hold an adult conversation about boxing without you actual EMOTIONS that you claim I have just because I shut down your ****** and silly comments.

      You seem like the type to keep rambling until you feel you've won the argument..... I'll let you have that.... I'm going to continue my conversation with those who actually follow the sport and not a MAN who participates in the sport. Peace.....

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      • #33
        Originally posted by SceneBoxer View Post

        Nelo is the superstar, the face of boxing, the heavy favorite to win... Losing to the unheralded Bivol is a total humiliation....

        Look at Nelo now, he avoided a rematch with Bivol @ 168 or 175 ... escaping from another humiliation...
        Again, that is your opinion, which you are welcome to have, but the FACTS are, according to what's documented is it was a close fight with all 3 OFFICIAL scoring cards have him losing by a round. I personally had Canelo losing 8-4 but a loss is a loss. He simply couldn't break down Bivol's defense.

        Being the face of boxing means NOTHING in the ring. It's one fighter vs the other fighter.

        Don't come at me talking about he "avoided" a rematch with Bivol when you know nothing about what's going on in either camp..... No official offer of a rematch was put on the table. No negotiation happen and Canelo said no.... You are simply going on your opinion of the situation and probably relying on someone else's OPINION on their YouTube channel or in an article/blog written about the situation.

        That facts we do know is that Bivol is a champion at 175lbs....he was not going to drop to 168lbs to rematch Canelo..... And Canelo is NOT a 175lb'er and honestly shouldn't be trying to fight at that weight. He went up the first time to fight an old man Kovalev.....the next time he ran into a young beast Bivol.... Canelo is a natural middleweight. The guys he should have been fighting is the Charlos, Boo Boo, Hurd, etc.... Individuals in the 154/60/68 divisions that have been looking to get in the ring with him. Moving up is cool as he's trying to challenge himself, but it makes him look like a duck because there are goons in his division that he has yet to face......I didn't like that he fought GGG a 3rd time.... GGG is well passed his prime. Why not fight Alimkhanuly, or Boo Boo....he's your mandatory for the WBO I believe......and he's been calling for the fight for 5 years.

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        • #34
          Losing to Bivol isn't a humiliation. He moved up and tried beating a bigger guy and it didn't work out. Challening yourself shouldn't be looked down upon

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          • #35
            I don't get the hate. Canelo went up in weight and challenge a proven undefeated bigger fighter. I just don't know where is the shame in that.

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            • #36
              It was a humiliation because canelo has already fought at 175 ibs before and ko'ed kovalev whom they said was the best fighter in that division when bivol and beterbiev were already there as champs. By their own logic, canelo lost to a lesser guy. Let's also not forget that canelo took the deal that he thought was the easier deal at that time instead of taking the pbc deal that has jermall charlo and benavidez.
              Last edited by Lance98; 07-04-2023, 09:44 PM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by SceneBoxer View Post
                Nelo's loss to Bivol is a total humiliation, what IF Nelo loses to Mell, what will it be called?

                entirely hilarious?



                Canelo is OLD. I wouldn’t be surprised if he lost to anyone at this point

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

                  You sound like a bitter b*tch.....lol. Canelo had a close fight and lost. What are you his ex-girl friend. You want people to hate him as much as you do?.....lol.

                  Plant & Smith are not bigger than Bivol...nice try. Kovalev was old as hell. Bivol is better than all 3 of them TODAY.....regardless. And he beat Canelo....something they couldn't do.
                  Close fight? When was there a close fight? Canelo got dominated and beaten, and ducked the rematch.



                  groupie.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

                    Dumb ass, I don't have a definition of Cherry Picking..... It's only one definition of it and your corny ass don't know it apparently..... If your ****** ass can look passed your ignorance and hatred, you would know that Canelo offered Jermall Charlo the fight twice and was turned down.....TWICE. I honestly don't know how Jermell got the shot...but he has been calling for a fight vs Canelo/GGG just as much as his brother.

                    And stop making up ****....Charlo didn't have a fight lined up. His ass was sitting and hoarding the belts just like his brother and workout brother (Spence).

                    "For someone who claims they're not a Canelo fan"........you sound dumb. I'm not a Man Fan.....I'm a boxing fan.....I just hate ****** mfers like you who spend so much energy hating a mfer who doen't even know you exist. I follow the SPORT....not specific fighters. Only emotion in this conversation is your bitterness vs Canelo being that the facts hurt your feelings so much you are willing to fabricate things just to continue the argument.....

                    I gave you nothing but facts, but you got butt hurt over them because they didn't run parallel with your agenda on Canelo......

                    If you must have my OPINION.....My opinion is Canelo lost to Lara......My opinion is Canelo lost to GGG in the first fight.......My opinion is he's purposely not trying to fight Boo Boo......My opinion is Canelo needs to fight Benavidez.....Benavidez was stripped off his title, due to his own actions, but he never lost it.... I can't claim Canelo to be the top dog in the division if there is a guy who is standing there who he hasn't beaten, yet he's holding the title that this fighter had before being stripped.. Those are some of my opinions regarding Canelo, but my opinions don't mean **** when compared to what has actually occurred and what is happening now.........Once you realize how to separate your opinions from facts....it will be easier for you to hold an adult conversation about boxing without you actual EMOTIONS that you claim I have just because I shut down your ****** and silly comments.

                    You seem like the type to keep rambling until you feel you've won the argument..... I'll let you have that.... I'm going to continue my conversation with those who actually follow the sport and not a MAN who participates in the sport. Peace.....
                    Charlo had a fight lined up with Tim Tszyu.
                    You're a huge groupie man fan. You're quoting everyone in here with essays. You quoted my same post twice. You're emotional
                    You gave me zero facts. You claimed Canelo/Bivol was a close fight LOL


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Lance98 View Post
                      It was a humiliation because canelo has already fought at 175 ibs before and ko'ed kovalev whom they said was the best fighter in that division when bivol and beterbiev were already there as champs. By their own logic, canelo lost to a lesser guy. Let's also not forget that canelo took the deal that he thought was the easier deal at that time instead of taking the pbc deal that has jermall charlo and benavidez.
                      Kovalev was shot. Losing to Bivol is not a humiliation.

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