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Let's Face Facts, Manny Pacquiao = The Most Overrated Fighter Of The 21st Century
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Originally posted by Kalion View PostInteresting, but being a local legend in a country not known for boxing or being a KO'd by a common oponent really boils down to nothing and dosent change the fact I think these wins are overrated.
As far as the rest of his careers goes... since you brought it up. How many fighters from MAB on did PAC soundly beat in their prime?
Well my argument was about his career PRE-MAB.
Being KO'd by an opponent is not that bad. It not how you started but how you end it. Has Pbf never lost before in the amateurs?
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Originally posted by street bully View PostHopkins unified the IBF and WBC titles, and beat every top 5 ranked MW and defended his title 12 times before Tito.
Let's discuss this nicely. Im going to put a list of pac's accomplishment and i'll sort it. the biggest win comes at the top. You can do the same for BHO and compare it.
1. Marco Antonio Barrera TKO - Barrera was Ranked inside the TOP 3 p4p and was the Featherweight lineal champion by way of Nazeem Hamed
2. Erik Morales II KO - Erik was doing well in the 1st half but the body shot was due for dividends in the 2nd Half of the fight. Just 2 fights ago he was able to do what his other mexican greats wasnt able to do. Beat Pacquiao
3. Ricky Hatton - Undefeated and the lineal Champion at 140. That line is good enough IMO.
4. Juan Manuel Marquez SD - You cant get a closer fight than this but you got the correct winner. It would have been more injustice in JMM won that fight. Supreme fight at 130.
5. Oscar Delahoya TKO - DLH is drained, Dela hoya is this and that we can agree but we can also agree that DLH was a BIG favorite before the fight being a former MIDDLEWEIGHT belt holder. Pac won his SuperBantamweight title the same night Oscar DelaHoya won his 154 lbs belt. That's a big big difference in size.
6. Marco Antonio Barrera UD - A Clear decision. everytime MAB does something Pacquio returns it with big interest. Find me someone who got a decision againts Barrera like this? JMM strugled againts this version of barrera.
7, Oscar Larios - ****** posters will look at the record and say Larios came from 122 to fight at 130 lol. Larios is a natural 126 to 130 lbs fighter. He fought at 130 way earlier than Pacquiao. he's staying at 122 same reason BHOP defended 160 for so long. He was a champion before and after pac beat him.
8. Chatchai Sasakul - Lineal champion at 112. A legend in his own right.
9. Erik Morales III KO - Up to now only Pac was the only one able to drop Morales. He came to this fight thinking/Hoping to KO Pac because he doest think he can afford a long fight.
10. Lehlohonolo Ledwabba - Ranked inside the TOP p4p by some scribes and was considered the TOP DOG @122
11. David Diaz - Mediocre means average. I dont think he's average. He won a belt. He recently beat a former champion. Mediocre fighters don't win titles.Last edited by miron_lang; 10-01-2009, 11:18 PM.
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Originally posted by brown mamba View Postwhat current boxer has fought better competition with equal or better results? beating the people he has beaten in entertaining fashion is no easy feat my friend. it takes skills to do that. thats why no one in boxing aint doin it like he does.
pacs defeat over them means nothing.
majority of floyds fightshavebeen against guys bigger than him
and hes outclassed them so much that when the fight is said and done. they say Floyd needs to challenges himself more....no, there is just no one on his level who presents a challenge. even Paul Williams will lose to floyd
b/c pac isnt able to outclass his opponents due to of his LACK of talent level, doesnt make him look like a better fighter.
the same clowns hating on floyd are the same ones who wouldnt put their money on Pac to beat floyd if they fight.
and thats point blank period. they will not put their money on Pac b/c they kknow he CANT beat floyd
pac is overatedLast edited by sycomantz; 10-01-2009, 11:05 PM.
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