Canelo choosing Charlo over Benavidez is a blatant duck.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Where did I mention Benavidez being mandatory as part of my argument you incoherent Neanderthal?

The mandatory situation is IRRELEVANT. Canelo CHOOSES who he fights regardless of any ABC pressure or stipulation and he’s CHOOSING not to fight Benavidez. Simple as that.

Maybe read that back slowly…

That's why it's called a voluntary. You're either really really slow, or just being deliberately obtuse here. Every fighter fights who they want to unless there's a title shot obligation involved.

There's no point fighting Benavidez now, because it doesn't get him out of any obligations that are relevant now. Nothing in your fantasy world changes the rules. This thread is full of people who are saying that it counts as a duck because Benavidez is his mandatory. He's not until the WBC comes up again in the rotation. So there's no reason to fight Benavidez. He doesn't get a belt, he doesn't get acclaim in a new division and he doesn't clear a mandatory obligation.

Your "argument" is some fantasy that belts don't matter, which obviously isn't true for Canelo, and that Canelo doesn't fight his mandatories, except that he's done that twice at 168.

When he moved up, people were criticizing him for not staying in middleweight. Now they're saying middleweight is dead. You haters just love to change your stories, because the truth is that facts don't matter to your pretend narrative.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

That's why it's called a voluntary. You're either really really slow, or just being deliberately obtuse here. Every fighter fights who they want to unless there's a title shot obligation involved.

There's no point fighting Benavidez now, because it doesn't get him out of any obligations that are relevant now. Nothing in your fantasy world changes the rules. This thread is full of people who are saying that it counts as a duck because Benavidez is his mandatory. He's not until the WBC comes up again in the rotation. So there's no reason to fight Benavidez. He doesn't get a belt, he doesn't get acclaim in a new division and he doesn't clear a mandatory obligation.

Your "argument" is some fantasy that belts don't matter, which obviously isn't true for Canelo, and that Canelo doesn't fight his mandatories, except that he's done that twice at 168.

When he moved up, people were criticizing him for not staying in middleweight. Now they're saying middleweight is dead. You haters just love to change your stories, because the truth is that facts don't matter to your pretend narrative.

You’re comprehension is terrible.

At what point did I ever make a point of Benavidez being mandatory? I didn’t. Cause it’s irrelevant.

Belts don’t matter. The biggest fight in years was Tank-Garcia, how many belts were on the line?

Belts are a marketing tool used to promote fights to the less educated fans like yourself.

Whichever way you wanna spin it, Canelo could’ve fought Benavidez but instead he chose to fight a 2 year plus inactive Charlo.

“Haters”. Typical fanboy jargon. Grow up kid.

[crimsonfalcon07]

You’re comprehension is terrible.

At what point did I ever make a point of Benavidez being mandatory? I didn’t. Cause it’s irrelevant.

Belts don’t matter. The biggest fight in years was Tank-Garcia, how many belts were on the line?

Belts are a marketing tool used to promote fights to the less educated fans like yourself.

Whichever way you wanna spin it, Canelo could’ve fought Benavidez but instead he chose to fight a 2 year plus inactive Charlo.

“Haters”. Typical fanboy jargon. Grow up kid.

Less educated... Except you're the one who doesn't understand the rules of the game, and is already resorting to repetition of your fake narrative and ad hominem. Take a look in the mirror, because you're the one who needs to grow up. I think we've already seen that you live in a fantasy world where Canelo can do nothing right no matter what he does. If he fought Benavidez, you'd be whining about him ducking Bivol, Beterbiev, Charlo, Andrade, Morrell, or Badou Jack. Your game has been exposed repeatedly. You hate Ginger and will say anything to hate on him. He's not required to fight Benavidez at this time, and Benavidez has nobody to blame for that but himself. Claiming a champion is ducking a guy who's not even up for a shot yet is childish hater nonsense. If he wants to jump the line, he needs to fight Morrell and take his spot.

And no, the biggest fight in years wasn't Tank v Garcia. Jake Paul has done bigger numbers on more than one occasion. That backtrack line doesn't do you any favors. Garcia was responsible for the bulk of the buys in that fight anyways, and his popularity has little to do with boxing. Jake Paul v Ben Askren did 1.5 million FFS. If you want to talk financials, Canelo is getting paid just fine to fight other people, and the size of the fight matters more to PBC than to Canelo.

My reading comprehension is just fine. Your argument can be summarized as "I want Canelo to fight Benavidez rather than X because I think Benavidez has a better shot of winning and I want to see Canelo lose." I'm going to pretend that mandatory obligations don't exist so I can push the ducking narrative, even though if he did fight Benavidez, I would be whining about how he wasn't fighting Bivol, Morrell, Beterbiev, Charlo, Andrade, Etc.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Less educated... Except you're the one who doesn't understand the rules of the game, and is already resorting to repetition of your fake narrative and ad hominem. Take a look in the mirror, because you're the one who needs to grow up. I think we've already seen that you live in a fantasy world where Canelo can do nothing right no matter what he does. If he fought Benavidez, you'd be whining about him ducking Bivol, Beterbiev, Charlo, Andrade, Morrell, or Badou Jack. Your game has been exposed repeatedly. You hate Ginger and will say anything to hate on him. He's not required to fight Benavidez at this time, and Benavidez has nobody to blame for that but himself. Claiming a champion is ducking a guy who's not even up for a shot yet is childish hater nonsense. If he wants to jump the line, he needs to fight Morrell and take his spot.

And no, the biggest fight in years wasn't Tank v Garcia. Jake Paul has done bigger numbers on more than one occasion. That backtrack line doesn't do you any favors. Garcia was responsible for the bulk of the buys in that fight anyways, and his popularity has little to do with boxing. Jake Paul v Ben Askren did 1.5 million FFS. If you want to talk financials, Canelo is getting paid just fine to fight other people, and the size of the fight matters more to PBC than to Canelo.

My reading comprehension is just fine. Your argument can be summarized as "I want Canelo to fight Benavidez rather than X because I think Benavidez has a better shot of winning and I want to see Canelo lose." I'm going to pretend that mandatory obligations don't exist so I can push the ducking narrative, even though if he did fight Benavidez, I would be whining about how he wasn't fighting Bivol, Morrell, Beterbiev, Charlo, Andrade, Etc.

“Rules of the game”. Spoken like a true casual. Boxing is the Wild West, it’s completely unregulated.

I wouldn’t be saying he’s ducking any of those guys. Read my OP. Bivol or Jack would’ve been completely justifiable. Again your comprehension is terrible man.

There’s no way in hell Paul-Askren did 1.5m on Triller. How gullible are you?

Your comprehension is far from fine, it’s absolutely awful. I literally say in my OP I think Canelo beats Benavidez.

It has nothing to do with me wanting to see Canelo lose you pathetic little fanboy. I want to see the top two guys fight at 168, that’s Canelo vs Benavidez. Not Canelo vs 2 year inactive Charlo.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If you’re gonna work with PBC, Benavidez is the obvious fight to make.

Had he chose to rematch Bivol or face Jack at Cruiserweight, I can understand that. The revenge aspect with Bivol and the historical significance of winning a title at Cruiserweight is justifiable. However, there’s one guy we want to see Canelo fight above anyone else at 168 and that’s Benavidez.

Also the ironic thing is I actually think he beats Benavidez. He clearly doesn’t want it though, he isn’t willing to risk losing the Mexican/Latino fanbase.

crimsonfalcon07

Maybe you should actually read this dumbass.

[uppercut510]

canelo sees the same thing we see when we look in charlos eyes, hes not there hes a circus lion that you can take a picture with lol

[BodyBagz]

Can no Nelo detractor post up an active fighter with a better 10 fight run than Nelo ?!?!?

Yet, none of them are called out.

People expect more from Nelo

[MONGOOSE66]

I think the whole reason of picking PBC is to fight THEIR fighters. 3 fight deal says to me PBC expects him to fight their top money makers.
Seeing how Benividas ducked Morell. I see Canelo fighting Morell first.

[Oracle01]

None of y’all really believe Canelo is scared of Benavidez right?

he’s fought Kovalev and Bivol and a huge weight and size disadvantage and GGG 3 times but he’s now scared of Benavidez?

doesn’t make any sense

Bivol has not stopped his last 8 opponents, he just spars with opponents. Kovalev was shot to pieces and just put out weak ass jabs all fight. GGG was the only time he took a risk and stepped up but that was 6 years ago and Benavidez is younger, bigger faster and more vicious than GGG ever was.

Its not about what we believe anymore. Canelo just chose an inactive middleweight over Benavidez who has earned the shot. There is nothing to debate he is scared and ducked. Now its upto him to change our minds.

[Roadblock]

Bivol has not stopped his last 8 opponents, he just spars with opponents. Kovalev was shot to pieces and just put out weak ass jabs all fight. GGG was the only time he took a risk and stepped up but that was 6 years ago and Benavidez is younger, bigger faster and more vicious than GGG ever was.

Its not about what we believe anymore. Canelo just chose an inactive middleweight over Benavidez who has earned the shot. There is nothing to debate he is scared and ducked. Now its upto him to change our minds.

Lets just say for giggles, Say a DB fight gives him 100mill return, and the PBC deal is a 3-fight deal that nets him 600mill, is he really scared, in the same shoes what would you do?