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  • #41
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

    Nobody, no hardcore Joshua fan or even casual fan has EVER claimed that Whyte is his best win 'Whyte was a solid win. Joshua beat a Whyte that could actually move, and who had never been banged out before'.

    Thack EVERYONE can see what you are trying to do. I know what you are attempting to do mate 'Why are you doing this to yourself?'.

    You must know what you are doing, and on some level 'That is not good for you mate'. These tactics you are using of indirect attacks on a fighters character and resume 'To embellish another fighter's career i.e Fury 'This is not a good way to behave'.

    You see these games and tactics you are playing? They don't work anymore with the majority of boxing fans 'Because as I have told you before? Fury has lost the public, only his hardcore fans and cronies believe WELL they don't believe the things YOU are saying. But they will lie to themselves and try their best to convince themselves, that the nonsense and things they make up is real.

    Anthony Joshua's best win for me, is beating Wladimir Kiltschko in his 19th fight 'In the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'.

    And really? That was the Kiltschko Fury should of been re-matching 'But Fury did not make the rematch unfortunately'.

    Note: You need not to be too concerned with Joshua. Your boy Fury, his heavyweight reign is in a complete mess 'Not matter how many other fighters you put down, mock and attack, it is not going to aid that situation. If you want to give some advise or critique a fighter with all this experience that you have 'Because you have mentioned before that you hang around in professional in boxing gyms. Then you should really be concerned with Fury, be honest towards him'.

    This is better for you. Because lying yourself, and making stuff up 'You are only betraying yourself'.

    Joshua is going to give his Heavyweight title run another good go 'You know that, every honest boxing fans knows that'. If he wins, he wins, if he loses then at least he will lose gallantly. Joshua has already achieved his first win in over 2 years, and now is working towards fighting Deontay Wilder.

    What is Tyson Fury doing, what is the WBC Heavyweight Champion doing, now?
    Lmao that version of kiltsko was retired and hadn’t fought for 2 years Ur hilarious bro

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    • #42
      Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

      Lmao that version of kiltsko was retired and hadn’t fought for 2 years Ur hilarious bro
      The time frame from Fury vs Kiltschko to Joshua vs Kiltschko was 17 months.

      'November 28th 2015 Fury vs Kiltschko to 29th April 2017 Kiltschko vs Joshua 'That is 17 months mate, 2.years would been 24 months'.

      And during that 17 months, Wladimir Kiltschko never retired.

      Kiltschko endured three back to back training camps, before the Joshua fight.

      The reason why Kiltschko had to endure all those training camps, was because Tyson Fury unfortunately kept on pulling out of their rematch.

      Wladimir Kiltschko weighed in at 240 pounds vs Joshua compared to 245 pounds vs Fury.

      In Kiltschko's own educated opinion, he believes that he was in better condition for Joshua 'And in my opinion, Joshua beat a better version of Kiltschko than Fury' etc.


      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 06-22-2023, 05:04 PM.
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      • #43
        This should not be as difficult as Eddie Hearn makes it out to be. There are over 2,000 active pro heavyweights who would sighn up right now, and we want FIGHTING, not negotiations reports.

        Here, I'll come with the assist. Here are the 50 best:

        Champion -
        Tyson Fury
        1. Oleksandr Usyk
        2. Deontay Wilder
        3. Anthony Joshua
        4. Andy Ruiz
        5. Zhilei Zhang
        6. Joe Joyce
        7. Luis Ortiz
        8. Daniel Dubois
        9. Dillian Whyte
        10.Martin Bakole
        11.Derek Chisora
        12.Joseph Parker
        13.Filip Hrgovic
        14.Frank Sanchez
        15.Kubrat Pulev
        16.Murat Gassiev
        17.Arslanbek Makhmudov
        18.Efe Ajagba
        19.Otto Wallin
        20.Carlos Takam
        21.Tony Yoka
        22.Agit Kabayel
        23.Robert Helenius
        24.Jarrell Miller
        25.Ali Eren Demirezen
        26.Fabio Wardly
        27.Zhan Kossobutskiy
        28.Jarred Anderson
        29.Charles Martin
        30.Lenier Pero
        31.Jermain Franklin
        32.Simon Kean
        33.Kevin Lerena
        34.Adam Kownacki
        35.Stephen Shaw
        36.Arslan Yallyev
        37.Lucas Browne
        38.Ivan Dychko
        39.Bakhodir Jalolov
        40.Demsey McKean
        41.David Adeleye
        42.Kem Ljungquist
        43.Alexis Barriere
        44.Justice Huni
        45.Mike Balogun
        46.Jonathan Guidry
        47.Jose Larduet
        48.Ryad Merhy
        49.Jonathan Rice
        50.Jerry Forrest​

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
          This should not be as difficult as Eddie Hearn makes it out to be. There are over 2,000 active pro heavyweights who would sighn up right now, and we want FIGHTING, not negotiations reports.

          Here, I'll come with the assist. Here are the 50 best:
          Let's just look at the top 21 (incl. Fury) because, let's face it, no-one is accepting a fight with a guy ranked past 20 as being legitimate.

          He himself is one of them.
          He's already fought 6 of them.
          Two of them are Wilder and Fury - he's negotiating with Wilder, and Fury is semi retired.
          Zhang, Joyce and Dubois are already locked in for important fights.
          Hrgovic is the next WBA mandatory.

          That leaves Ortiz, Bakole, Chisora, Sanchez, Gassiev, Ajagba, Wallin.

          There are a couple of decent fights in that very short list. But will he really gain from any of them? And will people on here accept them as legitimate fights?

          And he's not the one obligated to fight those guys. Any fight will just be a tune up, you would think, given he's publicly negotiating a fight with the guy you've got ranked above him.

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          • #45
            Joshua still fears Luis Ortiz after all these years

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Toffee View Post

              Let's just look at the top 21 (incl. Fury) because, let's face it, no-one is accepting a fight with a guy ranked past 20 as being legitimate.

              He himself is one of them.
              He's already fought 6 of them.
              Two of them are Wilder and Fury - he's negotiating with Wilder, and Fury is semi retired.
              Zhang, Joyce and Dubois are already locked in for important fights.
              Hrgovic is the next WBA mandatory.

              That leaves Ortiz, Bakole, Chisora, Sanchez, Gassiev, Ajagba, Wallin.

              There are a couple of decent fights in that very short list. But will he really gain from any of them? And will people on here accept them as legitimate fights?

              And he's not the one obligated to fight those guys. Any fight will just be a tune up, you would think, given he's publicly negotiating a fight with the guy you've got ranked above him.
              Great post! Everything that you state is true. I suppose that defining what is appropriate for an August tune up when you have the most important fight of your career (potentially) in December is where the wiggle room exists. You'll agree that what "people on here accept" has to be measured by the likelihood than only a sliver sized percentage of them know many of the top 50 listed, never mind the 2,200 ranked below them, and not knowing is the only cause for any lack of respect for anyone in the rare top 50 as a tune-up worthy opponent. Any of those listed are trained killing machines and one false move by Joshua or anyone in the top five will generate a loss.
              Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 06-23-2023, 08:24 AM.

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