This bum will lose to Joshua by a KO at the end of the year and he won`t fight anybody good before that, that is for sure.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
Wilder dealt with the mobility alright, that is why he decked Fury more times than any other fighter.
Also? It was only the first fight were Fury used his old school Riddler style.
Tyson Fury has not really used movement greatly in any of his fights since then.
Tyson Fury can be found inside the ring these days, Wallin found him, Wilder found him 'And even fighters who can hardly move like Whyte, could find him'.
I don't understand this notion, that Joshua is a static fighter? It is a myth. Are his movements somewhat choreographed in appearance? Yes. Which can make him appear slightly mechanical. But don't get carried away with this, Joshua as a athlete for me is a superior Athlete than Fury.
If Joshua was so static, if Joshua was so easy to find inside of the ring 'Why has he not been decked by many fighters? Why is it difficult to find images of Joshua smashed to pieces and ****** up? The reason why it is difficult is because, historically if Joshua does not want to be found inside the ring '90% of the Heavyweights in the game are going to find it very difficult to get to him'.
Tyson Fury in his last two fights vs Wilder did not rely on his movement to beat Wilder 'Fury relied more on his brute strength, inside game, resolve and Jab while moving forward'.
But I believe Fury had to fight this way. There has been a observational narrative, that was created since Fury vs Wilder II.
And that narrative goes like this 'How to beat Deontay Wilder, you must close the range. And force him to fight on the inside, were his power is less effective'.
But I don't think this is the only way to beat Wilder, for every fighter. But it was the best way for Fury, because Fury as a fighter technically is a clumsy fighter EVEN at his best.
Anthony Joshua technically as a fighter, is actually more text book compared to Fury. Also I have never seen Joshua make unforced errors for no apparent reason in a big fight 'Nowhere near as much as Fury'.
Fury in his third fight vs Wilder, early on in the fight decided randomly 'To square up to Wilder, and open the front door'. It was this unforced error which lead to Wilder decking Fury.
Joshua in his two fights vs Usyk produced very few unforced errors on that sort of level 'Joshua was just quite simply beaten'.
Skill for skill Joshua vs Usyk I & II was a extremely high level fight. Were neither fighter from a technical perspective was making very few mistakes.
Note: I just think when it comes to Wilder vs Joshua, people are overlooking Joshua's actual abilities 'Proven abilities'. I will admit, it is a extremely dangerous fight for Joshua.
Because there is still this legend and intimidation which surrounds Wilder's power 'And it is not only Wilder's power, it is also his aggression'.
But like I said? Everyone's focusing on how Wilder will effect Joshua 'Joshua will be the most powerful puncher Wilder has ever fought' etc.
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Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post
Wilder's right hand is such a weapon that there is only a few ways to beat him:
Be bigger than him and keep him at bay, then tie him up when he gets close (Fury). Wilder's reach is such that he can just wait on the outside and eventually land that big punch.
Be a skilled inside fighter, get past that bomb, go on the inside go to work and tie him up. I don't think thats Joshua, look at how he beat Ruiz, Joshua was a stick and move type; I think thats what he wants to be.
Be tough, have a powerful punch in hand, and hope to land it before he does.
Thats not to write that Wilder is an ATG or such, but his right hand and reach are at alltime levels. I just don't see AJ stylistically being a fit to beat Wilder.
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Originally posted by Bob View Post
Aj has already been knocked over/out & concussed in sparring by Dubois, Dawejko Bakolie & i have heard another but no second source. Really worked out well when Dawejko concussed Aj before the msg Ruiz fight.
They should both be fighting easy touches with that Saudi blood money on the line.
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Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
Andy Ruiz (who I don't consider a great puncher) stunned Joshua badly enough that the fight was appropriately stopped. This must have been in Joshua's mind in the rematch as Joshua was content to win on points and avoid his normal aggressive style. I simply do not believe that will work against Wilder. If Joshua has any self-doubts about defeating Wilder, he will have lost before the fight is fought. I'm picking Wilder in an exciting fight, but if Joshua wins I won't be heartbroken.
I don't think wilder will find the same punch as Ruiz. Sure I think wilder can knock Josh down, but won't necessarily have the same effect as Ruiz first knockdown of josh. Even though wilder is harder puncher.
Last edited by hugh grant; 06-13-2023, 03:24 AM.
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