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  • #61
    Bradley was a good fighter , had a memorable war w/ Provodnikov, beat JMM. His best "win" was a robbery ,boxing HOF has gotten watered down no way in hell Bradley is a hall of fame fighter.
    Last edited by Brother Mouzone; 06-08-2023, 07:41 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Brother Mouzone View Post
      Bradley was a good fighter , had a memorable war w/ Provodnikov, beat JMM. His best "win" was a robbery ,boxing HOF has gotten watered down no way in hell Bradley is a hall of fame fighter.
      Everything is watered down now. Even manhood is watered down.

      It's like my kids' school that sends emails every week telling me why this month, week, and day is special. Friendship month. School Administrator week. One-eyed one-eared flying purple people eater day.

      When everyday is a holiday, there are no holidays anymore. When non-HOFers fill the HOF, there is no HOF anymore.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by dukesville View Post

        The Bradley fight was after all his fights with pacman. And the fight was very close could have gone the other way easily.
        Okay, you're right about the fight being after, but saying it was close is just a bold faced lie.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by slimPickings View Post

          Not nearly as overrated as Arturo Gatti who made it into the HOF!!
          Did Carl Froch not make it in as well!?!
          Just saying.
          First let me say both well all three included Bradley skewed the measuring stick for HOF status.

          To me, Gatti fell into HOF due to the business of boxing. Numerous fights were fight of the year status, those fights draw in big numbers for big networks, audience happy, promoters paid etc trickles down to great business. Also Gatti was a Two time world champion. I also think he’s untimely death played a part. I don’t think Gatti was the most talented but mentally was a beast to go through those wars. I could see Bradley going this route with some of his fights like the Ruslan fight but Bradley just didn’t have the goods.

          Froch’s HOF status was a shocker to me but in hindsight maybe not. He went on a tear after the Ward loss and beat Groves twice once in front of 80,000 at wembley. He had some decent wins; Taylor, Bute, and Pascal also avenged the Kessler loss but can’t really say he’s definitively HOF. I definitely think Froch was talented but also feel like he watered down HOF.
          Boxing HOF needs to be more like NFL HOF. If it’s not definitively obvious then your not in. This doesn’t shame anybodies career plus also makes some of these younger fighters work on securing better matchup earlier. If you compare HOF fighters pre 95 to post 2005 some names leaving you scratching your head a bit.
          I forgot who but somebody just said they were a HOF status fighter and I was scratching my head a bit. It might have been Bud Crawford. I love Bud but that’s crazy to say until this Spence fight but that’s the world we live in.
          Last edited by Jwil20; 06-09-2023, 01:01 AM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Jwil20 View Post

            First let me say both well all three included Bradley skewed the measuring stick for HOF status.

            To me, Gatti fell into HOF due to the business of boxing. Numerous fights were fight of the year status, those fights draw in big numbers for big networks, audience happy, promoters paid etc trickles down to great business. Also Gatti was a Two time world champion. I also think he’s untimely death played a part. I don’t think Gatti was the most talented but mentally was a beast to go through those wars. I could see Bradley going this route with some of his fights like the Ruslan fight but Bradley just didn’t have the goods.

            Froch’s HOF status was a shocker to me but in hindsight maybe not. He went on a tear after the Ward loss and beat Groves twice once in front of 80,000 at wembley. He had some decent wins; Taylor, Bute, and Pascal also avenged the Kessler loss but can’t really say he’s definitively HOF. I definitely think Froch was talented but also feel like he watered down HOF.
            Boxing HOF needs to be more like NFL HOF. If it’s not definitively obvious then your not in. This doesn’t shame anybodies career plus also makes some of these younger fighters work on securing better matchup earlier. If you compare HOF fighters pre 95 to post 2005 some names leaving you scratching your head a bit.
            I forgot who but somebody just said they were a HOF status fighter and I was scratching my head a bit. It might have been Bud Crawford. I love Bud but that’s crazy to say until this Spence fight but that’s the world we live in.
            Well Bud is right to say he is a future HOFer - after all, if Bradley is in he should be too

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            • #66
              Originally posted by SteveM View Post

              Well Bud is right to say he is a future HOFer - after all, if Bradley is in he should be too
              That’s what I mean. The Bradley’s of the world make a lot of fighters have a case for HOF.
              I think Bud is a great fighter but he’s disposition early on in the Spence negotiations left a little bad taste in my mouth. As if he didn’t need to take the Spence fight and he was already a HOF fighter. In Bud’s defense he’s already been undisputed so it’s hard to argue against him but the business of boxing becoming more than the opponents, records etc. (Personal note Indongo was never high on my list and that win definitely didn’t age well. Indongo took a few L’s. Legit fell from the sky was hard to imagine him with a belt or a real threat)

              There is always these “what if” matchups but I feel like this class of fighters will have so many what if’s which makes the HOF even more easier to measure too. If the best fought the best then we wouldn’t have so much debate.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Doubledagger View Post

                Funny how that same JMM went on to KO Pac after he loss to Bradley, hit somehow wasn't the same JMM huh?
                The last Pac fight was almost a year before the Bradley fight. To be honest that fight could have went either way and JMM had no tune ups before that fight.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Jwil20 View Post
                  A lot of what Teo been saying lately is absurd but kinda behind him on Bradley HOF. If he wasn’t Rollyied that decision vs Pacquaio would he be in the HOF? I don’t think so. Just my thoughts though always thought he was overrated AF
                  Bradley is still far more accomplished than Teofimo Lopez. He also beat Juan Manuel Marquez easily so it's not like the Pacquiao fight was his only big win.
                  Last edited by joseph5620; 06-09-2023, 03:23 AM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
                    Even tho Teo is wrong here because he did lose the Martin fight, he’s spot on about commentary being biased. Especially ESPN. During the Haney-Loma fight, even when Haney was getting the best of Loma, Bradley kept saying “Loma is taking his time, downloading data” when Loma had flurries, he would be very animated lol. Meanwhile, Ward hate for Canelo oozes out of him lol. He can never give an honest assessment without letting his bias views take over.
                    Haney lost that fight. Just remember his words on the corner to daddy.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Tmoney84 View Post
                      Tro ain't lying, if you would've heard the fight on radio n not watched it you would've thought Haney was piecing Loma up based on ward n Bradley's commentary.. low key black supremacists are REAL and everywhere.. A dumb ass will drop a clever turd from time to time n Teo dead on with calling out these undercover black sups, keep shining a light on it
                      Anti-black racist like you are real everywhere including boxingscene.com.

                      Bradley wasn't even biased towards Haney. That's ****** and just a lie that anti-black racists like you throw out there not realizing there are people that knew better.


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                      Last edited by joseph5620; 06-09-2023, 03:30 AM.

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