Comments Thread For: Devin Haney Overcomes Vasiliy Lomachenko, Wins Decision To Retain Undisputed Crown

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  • JustABoxingLover
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    #921
    Originally posted by julianjaz
    Y’all need to remember , Loma is trying to TAKE AWAY the UNDISPUTED TITLE, and since NEITHER GUY proved dominant over the other, LOMA DID NOT do enough to TAKE THE TITLES from the Champ Haney… Haney went into this fight as any champion does with THAT ADVANTAGE especially with UNDISPUTED is on the line !
    How can you dare take away titles that took Haney three decisive title fights to unify and just give the
    to Loma in one fight that was at best a draw?
    LOMA had to do more than that, I mean look at Loma’s beat up face and you know his body is aching. Y’all need to be fair to the game and like I said earlier, neither Haney nor Loma could decisively beat the other and to me that’s at best a draw and you should not take another man’s earned titles with a simple draw result.
    Made an account just to post, but I can't agree with that.

    Boxing is in a terrible state with the judges and needs some type of change. Fighters shouldn't have to feel like the only way they can win is to knockout the champion, otherwise the champ automatically wins. Some people even bruise easier than others, so judging off their face is a terrible way to judge a fight unless one is bleeding ridiculously bad while the other is pristine. There should be no hometown cooking or anything of the sort to sway the scores.

    Tonight, personally, I thought Loma won that, but even a draw would've been okay since boxing wants these younger guys to fight so bad.

    The sport is just in a really bad state...
    Last edited by JustABoxingLover; 05-21-2023, 12:40 AM.

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    • Carmaine
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      #922
      Originally posted by OctoberRed

      Not true. This was the last fight of Haney's Top Rank contract. They wanted Loma to win, so he could be fed to Shakur. There is zero guarantee Haney will fight Shakur, as both would want a ton of money and now TR has zero leverage to force that fight as Haney could simply go back to Hearn or go to PBC
      Ahhh, I didn't know this was his final contracted fight. I stand corrected!

      Still a great fight that could have went right way.

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      • Boxing Logic
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        #923
        Originally posted by champion4ever

        No, after tonight; One thing is abundantly clear and that is Haney days at fighting in the lightweight division are over due to poor conditioning. I thought his conditioning failed him down the stretch to the point; Where Loma was able to out hustle him and nearly won the fight. if it hadn't been for the early rounds; He could have easily lost this fight.
        If you think the fights are real then you should have the exact opposite conclusion to this. Lomachenko usually has guys gassed out ready to quit by the 7th or 8th round. The fact Haney still had gas to win the 12th round, and not get knocked out by Loma's supposedly real punches in the 11th round, means he is making the weight really easily.

        But that's if you buy the script, lol. The truth is it has nothing to do with none of that.

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        • DeeMoney
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          #924
          Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

          I love when fighters go to the body but the judges have not been giving credit for that for years already.
          This is why i wish someone, with more time and resources than i have, would run analytics on the judges. It would be good to know if ‘Judge A’ awards 90% of his rounds to the fighter who throws more punches. Or if ‘Judge B’ doesnt score body shots as important as head shots.

          I mean actual analysis, not just anecdotal. Then, if a given judge or two break trend, especially to support an A-side fighter in a close decision, you know somethings up. Of course thats why it will never happen.

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          • Damn Wicked
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            #925
            Originally posted by BigZ44
            Also, if we get a rematch, I want Jesus vs Allah in the co-main, a rivalry brewing for centuries
            Hopefully we get a double KO in that fight.

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            • bigtyivier2k2
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              #926

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              • Doubledagger
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                #927
                Originally posted by Teetotaler69

                He was booed in his own hometown lmfao he got a gift and yet your happy like if it was well earned.
                He was booed before the fight even started jackass

                Crowd was clearly biased from the start.

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                • DeeMoney
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                  #928
                  Wait, yall mean to tell me that an Eastern European fighter lost a close decision in America, where most fans thought he won. To an A-side, money maker from North America.....shocking

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                  • Boxing Logic
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                    #929
                    Originally posted by Old Spice
                    Loma can only blame himself. Had Haney hurt in 11th and backed off w a minute left in the round then did nothing in the 12th. Probably a sign of his age.
                    Yeah a few years of age is so precise that it always kicks in just one minute before these guys can finish a fight they are otherwise dominating in that moment, despite the adrenaline rush they would get from the crowd in that moment that should actually give them more energy.

                    This happens over and over again in these scripted "fights." If people think that's age, then the snake oil salesmen tricked them again, lol! They always have a ready excuse to divert your attention from the real reasons. It's called sleight of hand. They plan it like, "really it's going to be a fake fight, but in order trick people into not seeing that it is, we're going to dangle these other excuses over here to distract their attention, just like a magician uses sleight of hand to distract people's attention over here while he changes out the card over there while you're not looking."

                    It was a decent show though. I still think they are really shortchanging their customers though with all the missing and hugging and lack of activity by the fighters. There was a lot of waiting around where nothing much happened, just killing time to make it easier to script, practice, and perform.

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                    • TreD
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                      #930
                      Loma doesn't have it anymore- that closing, killer instinct, if you will. He relented so much near the final minute and half of the last few rounds. He was sparsely doing his Matrix moves. Should have been a draw. But can anyone attest to Haney looking two or three weight classes bigger than Loma? No excuse, but my goodness..

                      ​​​​​​Also, Haney is turning into Larry Holmes. Nobody will give him the credit he deserves because nobody likes him. How are you at your place of birth, and the whole crowd is booing you? No love for Haney.

                      Loma- thank you for the memories. Every dog has his day; Loma's days at the top are gone, unfortunately.

                      Let's make Haney vs Tank for December!
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