Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder Ready To Explore Usyk Title Clash if Dubois Scenario Falls Apart

[crimsonfalcon07]

Bums do usually go down and stay down after being hit as many times as Wilder hit them. But when it comes to actual world class fighters, Wilder is the one who stays down.

Many fighters can knock out bums. Only world class fighters can do it to other world class fighters. Wilder hasn't done it yet for a reason.

He's got Ortiz Jr at least, who's still ranked top 10 among all credible organizations, and was higher when he fought Wilder. And Stiverne at least had the title at one point. Who do you want Wilder to fight? There's just not that many top guys at heavyweight who are actually world class, and even fewer that want to risk Wilder when there's not even a title to be gained.

[juggernaut666]

Correctomundo.

I don't know how anyone could be confused by something so simple to understand. Not only that, but we can confirm the truth for Fury in fight 1 and 3. We can't with Wilder and his excuse about his daughter. It's just one of many excuses for why he lost that fight. yet i'm supposed to believe a pathological liar? Wilder will say anything to justify a loss.

It’s always funny feel sorry for the millionaires in boxing ,guarantee Wilder and his family are in no crisis at all that would be the average person on here living from paycheck to paycheck in most cases . Lol

[juggernaut666]

He's got Ortiz Jr at least, who's still ranked top 10 among all credible organizations, and was higher when he fought Wilder. And Stiverne at least had the title at one point. Who do you want Wilder to fight? There's just not that many top guys at heavyweight who are actually world class, and even fewer that want to risk Wilder when there's not even a title to be gained.

Hrgovic, Joyce , Zhang , Whyte , Kossobutskiy, Ruiz , Parker , Anderson , Usyk , Joshua and probably Sanchez and Wallin would be all considered Wilders best win .and I might even stretch Pulev in there bc it’s not a give me Ortiz is better still .

He hasn’t fought any of these guys and he avoided or was going to avoid Klitchko like the plague before Fury busted on to the scene . We’d like him to fight someone other then a Helenius. .I’d even settle for Miller who I think would beat the breaks off of anyone but Ortiz that Wilder fought and defeated . Lol

[Sid-Knee]

He's got Ortiz Jr at least, who's still ranked top 10 among all credible organizations, and was higher when he fought Wilder. And Stiverne at least had the title at one point. Who do you want Wilder to fight? There's just not that many top guys at heavyweight who are actually world class, and even fewer that want to risk Wilder when there's not even a title to be gained.

Stiverne and Ortiz were not world class. They never beat a single world class opponent themselves. The only decent win for either was the Jennings win for Ortiz. But that was a fringe level win, not world class. Stiverne doesn't even have a decent win. Please don't put Arreola down. The dude did nothing but lose to anyone who could string a couple of punches together. Hell, he was dominated by a past prime former LightHeavy in Adamek. When your best win is a complete bum in the glass jawed Seth Mitchell, you know you're a nobody of the highest order.

What has Ortiz done in the last 5 years to be ranked in anyone's top 10?

[ShoulderRoll]

You believe anyone would want the AJ/Wilder fight right after Wilder had just lost to Usyk? Yeah, no. They wouldn't.

Yeah, how silly of them for trying to keep the Wilder fight on schedule and not have anything get in the way of it. Silly people.

Joshua has lost to Usyk twice, Einstein.

Wilder can certainly lose to Usyk one time and not kill any of the attractiveness of having a fight against Joshua in December.

[Sid-Knee]

Joshua has lost to Usyk twice, Einstein.

Wilder can certainly lose to Usyk one time and not kill any of the attractiveness of having a fight against Joshua in December.

There's a big difference in AJ losing in the past to Usyk in the same way Wilder lost to Fury. But to have a loss right before the fight takes place? If you're struggling with that, it's not a surprise as you struggle with pretty much all logic. The fight is already not as big as it was in the past. It would very much lose more luster if one were to be coming off a defeat right before going in.

But it's OK because Wilder would only have one loss against Usyk whereas AJ has two, even though Wilder has already got 3 defeats against Fury. Yeah, i'm Einstein where you're concerned. It isn't hard to be considering.

[ShoulderRoll]

There's a big difference in AJ losing in the past to Usyk in the same way Wilder lost to Fury. But to have a loss right before the fight takes place? If you're struggling with that, it's not a surprise as you struggle with pretty much all logic. The fight is already not as big as it was in the past. It would very much lose more luster if one were to be coming off a defeat right before going in.

But it's OK because Wilder would only have one loss against Usyk whereas AJ has two, even though Wilder has already got 3 defeats against Fury. Yeah, i'm Einstein where you're concerned. It isn't hard to be considering.

AJ losing in the past to Usyk? He just lost to him one fight ago.

It’s not like it’s ancient history.

Wilder can certainly afford to lose one time to Usyk, it’ll be fine. Especially since there is the possible upside of him beating Usyk. If he actually does that and takes 3 heavyweight belts into the December showdown? That event becomes even bigger. Something that Joshua isn’t going to manage by fighting Dillian Shyte or any other soft touch that Hearn might dig up for him.

[PRINCEKOOL]

That’s because AJ hasn’t fought a real puncher like Wilder or Fury. He fought Usyk but that dude can’t punch either. Why are all you “over the ponders” so infatuated with Joshua? There are 300+ heavyweights better than him throughout the history of boxing. Geez-us - let’s get the Wilder fight signed so we can be done with this AJ nonsense.

Fury is not a big puncher. 'Fury was unable to deck or legitimately knock-out a semi-retired miles out of condition Chisora 'In his last fight'.

Joshua has fought more big punchers and offensively gifted fighters than Fury etc.

[ShoulderRoll]

Fury is not a big puncher. 'Fury was unable to deck or legitimately knock-out a semi-retired miles out of condition Chisora 'In his last fight'.

Joshua has fought more big punchers and offensively gifted fighters than Fury etc.

Fury stopped Shyte faster than Joshua did.

[Sid-Knee]

AJ losing in the past to Usyk? He just lost to him one fight ago.

It’s not like it’s ancient history.

Wilder can certainly afford to lose one time to Usyk, it’ll be fine. Especially since there is the possible upside of him beating Usyk. If he actually does that and takes 3 heavyweight belts into the December showdown? That event becomes even bigger. Something that Joshua isn’t going to manage by fighting Dillian Shyte or any other soft touch that Hearn might dig up for him.

And Wilder lost to Fury in the one before last. It's the same for both. They're coming off a win. But it's different going straight into the fight coming off a loss. It isn't hard to understand.

IF Wilder were able to beat Usyk. But he won't. He doesn't stand a chance. But for the sake of argument, you believe Wilder wouldn't want nearly all the money even though AJ is the much bigger draw to shut the fight down yet again and continue living his fantasy life? I know he would. You should know he would but pretend otherwise and live the fantasy with him. He'd claim having 3 titles is why he should get 80-90%. That isn't in any way rational. Hell, he brought nothing to the table other than a title but still wanted 50% of the pot. At one point he wanted 60%. That's how deranged and cowardly he is.

I wouldn't talk about soft touches if i were you. We are talking about Deontay Wilder here who has made a career of beating nothing but. Even Whyte was too much for him even though the 7 mill Wilder priced himself out with was offered to him.