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  • Cypocryphy
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    #21
    I'm just gong to do half of his resume (his most recent half)

    Roman Martinez – WBO Champ at Super Feather
    Nicholas Walters – WBA Super Feather Champ (lost title on the scale in fight before Loma)
    Jason Sosa – WBA Super Feather Champ
    Rigondeaux – P4P Fighter ranked 8th or 6th (can't remember)
    LInares – WBA Super World Lightweight Title
    Pedraza – WBO Lightweight World Champ
    Anthony Crolla – Ranked #1 with WBA and Ex-world Champ
    Luke Campbell – Ranked #1 with WBC (Mike Garcia vacated, effectively ducking Lomachenko)

    Nakatani and Commey were all designed to force a fight with Lopez again but Lopez refused to rematch him.
    Jamaine Ortiz, was ranked 4th with the WBC – Time will tell.


    And if he beats Devin Haney, then that puts him in legendary status.

    The problem with Floyd was that all of these guys have asterisk by their name. Canelo was at a catchweight who he tried to slap a rehydration clause on and made him come in the ring withered. Pacquiao arguably beat Floyd. If anything, it should have been a draw. Cotto was a great fight. Maidana was nearly a cherry pick gone wrong. That's when he ducked Khan. Mosley was a shot fighter at that point.

    The point being is that your criticism of Loma is absurd and shows your inherent bias.

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    • dan_cov
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      #22
      Loma is just another product of Top Rank that beat on little fighters half his size (exactly one of their crybaby pre built excuses for this weekend despite both fighting at the same weight and Loma being there for 5 yrs winning multiple titles) and B level fighters, two of which whooped his a55!

      His resume is garbage tbh, straight up trash and even guys like Mitchell, Gatti, etc would have punched holes in bums like Crolla, Sosa, Campbell, Marriaga and the likes

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #23
        Originally posted by Cypocryphy
        I'm just gong to do half of his resume (his most recent half)

        Roman Martinez – WBO Champ at Super Feather
        Nicholas Walters – WBA Super Feather Champ (lost title on the scale in fight before Loma)
        Jason Sosa – WBA Super Feather Champ
        Rigondeaux – P4P Fighter ranked 8th or 6th (can't remember)
        LInares – WBA Super World Lightweight Title
        Pedraza – WBO Lightweight World Champ
        Anthony Crolla – Ranked #1 with WBA and Ex-world Champ
        Luke Campbell – Ranked #1 with WBC (Mike Garcia vacated, effectively ducking Lomachenko)

        Nakatani and Commey were all designed to force a fight with Lopez again but Lopez refused to rematch him.
        Jamaine Ortiz, was ranked 4th with the WBC – Time will tell.


        And if he beats Devin Haney, then that puts him in legendary status.

        The problem with Floyd was that all of these guys have asterisk by their name. Canelo was at a catchweight who he tried to slap a rehydration clause on and made him come in the ring withered. Pacquiao arguably beat Floyd. If anything, it should have been a draw. Cotto was a great fight. Maidana was nearly a cherry pick gone wrong. That's when he ducked Khan. Mosley was a shot fighter at that point.

        The point being is that your criticism of Loma is absurd and shows your inherent bias.
        Not sure why you're mentioning where they were ranked with the sanctioning bodies.

        Campbell nor Crolla were in the Top 5 overall.

        But even with your examples given, Floyd still beat more Top 5 ranked guys in the division, more reigning champions in the division, and more P4P ranked fighters in that 8 year time frame post Oscar than Lomachenko did in his entire career.

        So if anything you've just further disproved your own point.

        I also never criticized Lomachenko in any way.

        I responding to your illogical point about Floyd's career post Oscar in comparison to Lomachenko.
        Last edited by IronDanHamza; 05-16-2023, 10:55 PM.

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        • dan_cov
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          #24
          Modern day boxing in a nutshell; So many belts and dodgy rankings used to justify cherrypicks or so people can make out fights are legit when they are straight up mismatches of epic proportions

          His resume is laughable its just full of journeymen & guys half his size

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          • Cypocryphy
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            #25
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            Not sure why you're mentioning where they were ranked with the sanctioning bodies.

            Campbell nor Crolla were in the Top 5 overall.

            But even with your examples given, Floyd still beat more Top 5 ranked guys in the division, more reigning champions in the division, and more P4P ranked fighters in that 8 year time frame post Oscar than Lomachenko did in his entire career.

            So if anything you've just further disproved your own point.

            I also never criticized Lomachenko in any way.

            I responding to your illogical point about Floyd's career post Oscar in comparison to Lomachenko.
            Yeah. Well, I mentioned Floyd and said exactly what those other bozos said about Loma. Do I actually believe what I'm saying about Floyd? Not really. I mean I do have some criticism, but I wanted to point on the hypocrisy. That was my point. To show the bias and hypocrisy.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by Cypocryphy

              Yeah. Well, I mentioned Floyd and said exactly what those other bozos said about Loma. Do I actually believe what I'm saying about Floyd? Not really. I mean I do have some criticism, but I wanted to point on the hypocrisy. That was my point. To show the bias and hypocrisy.
              Right but your point doesn't make sense, is the issue. You brought up Floyd randomly for no reason, you don't even know how that guy feels about Floyd's career but you've then made a nonsensical point about it that's objectively false.

              Can't for the life of me understand why you'd make that point when you've just admitted you don't even believe it yourself. A bit weird.

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              • El_Mero
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                #27
                Originally posted by dan_cov
                Modern day boxing in a nutshell; So many belts and dodgy rankings used to justify cherrypicks or so people can make out fights are legit when they are straight up mismatches of epic proportions

                His resume is laughable its just full of journeymen & guys half his size
                I was just here to read the comments....this one takes the cake

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                • Cypocryphy
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  Right but your point doesn't make sense, is the issue. You brought up Floyd randomly for no reason, you don't even know how that guy feels about Floyd's career but you've then made a nonsensical point about it that's objectively false.

                  Can't for the life of me understand why you'd make that point when you've just admitted you don't even believe it yourself. A bit weird.
                  I was speaking to Floyd is TBE . Does he honestly have to say anything? And I still stand by Floyd fighting Oscar on his way out the door. Same with Mosley. And Maidana was a cherrypick that almost went wrong. He ducked Amir Khan. So there are criticism. But for the most part, Floyd fought some great fighters.

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                  • Roadblock
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by dan_cov
                    Loma is just another product of Top Rank that beat on little fighters half his size (exactly one of their crybaby pre built excuses for this weekend despite both fighting at the same weight and Loma being there for 5 yrs winning multiple titles) and B level fighters, two of which whooped his a55!

                    His resume is garbage tbh, straight up trash and even guys like Mitchell, Gatti, etc would have punched holes in bums like Crolla, Sosa, Campbell, Marriaga and the likes
                    I couldn't figure what the hell you on about, then seen the pic of Haney and now I know where all the hate is coming from.

                    Just to add to the thread Jeff Fenec won a WT in his 6th pro fight, and proved he was worthy later on, I see a lot of hate here for Loma I think he has done great for under 20 fights, and he is really up against in this fight, a hell of a win if he can pull it off.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by El_Mero

                      I was just here to read the comments....this one takes the cake
                      Thats what I thought, from memory only Rigo was smaller.

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