Comments Thread For: Froch: Anthony Joshua is Past His Best, He's Probably Got No Real Legacy

[thack]

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Fury's best wins -
An uninterested Wlad (no one actually wanted to win this snoozefest)

Wilder, who every Fury fan said is nothing but a 1 trick pony who has a terrible resume
NOW Wilder is some ATG

He’s got no real legacy as Froch is rightly pointing out.Legacy is about winning big fights , sometimes against the odds , remind me who Joshua has fought and beaten in that position when he was not odds on favourite to win ?
Wilder is some what of a one trick pony but boy what a trick it is !

[thack]

I don’t want Joshua to retire I just want him to test himself instead of his fans !

[MastaBlasta]

AJ may be playing this out right. Those heavy head shots from Ruiz (or any HW) can be life-changing. It takes real time for the brain to heal from those. I've said similar things about the head shots Wilder took from Fury. It's been good that Wilder has slowed down ... allowing time for the brain to heal before taking more big shots like that.

Of course this isn't pleasing to impatient boxing fans, who always want to see someone get their brains scrambled. AJ is young enough to be in real good shape brain-wise in another year or two. Wilder is a bit older, his window to really come back and be right, brain-wise, is smaller. For their health it's good for both that they have avoided taking massive head shots ... thus giving their brains time to heal. It's a slow, long process. Further damage could easily be catastrophic for either guy.

They both get passes from me. I would have both on semi retirement for a few years due to those head shots. Love them both as warriors but long term health MUST come first.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Funny. People expect form Joshua what they should expect from Fury.

Again, Joshua has no belt.

[Nash out]

Joshua needs to beat the real top upcoming contenders like Tom Schwarz, Frans Pianetta and Safari Seferi to secure a legacy!

How many times did Fury beat Chisora? 3.
How many times did AJ beat Chisora? 0.

QED

Fact! That Joshua failed to beat Chisora will always be held against him. If Fury could pull off a 4th victory over Chisora, well, then the argument as to whether or not he is the best ever will be put to rest. Nash out

[DeeMoney]

'No real legacy' is a bit harsh.

Multiple time titlist, one of the top 5 heavyweights of his generation, knockout victory over a HOFer in a FOTY candidate. I get that AJ is not a HOFer, but thats not to say he has no real legacy. Thats a darn fine career he crafted for himself, and far better than most anyone to enter a ring.

[hugh grant]

There's everything to play for now. Josh can turn it around and resculpt his legacy and how hes seen and he's only a couple of wins away from it.
Best wilder, and beat fury, then Josh is well on hiscway

[I_Didn't_Hear_No_Bell]

But come on, he's got 3 losses on his record, you finished up with 2. Are you really all that different?

lol Froch's wins are way more impressive than AJ's, and he never lost to a bum like Ruiz his only losses were Ward and Kessler.

[GhostofDempsey]

Joshua is likely past his mental best. Physically he can still compete at the highest level, but mentally he just doesn't seem to be able to pull it together. That first loss ruined him and he hasn't been the same since. The way he behaved so disrespectfully towards Usyk after his last loss should tell you all you need to know about AJ's mental state. This goes to show what has been said all along, the true challenge of a champion is how he comes back from defeat. AJ is failing that test.

[Murray Kelm]

To bad Archie Moore did not fight in the same era as Carl , it would have been the mongoose against the cobra !