Comments Thread For: Froch: I Think Canelo is Past His Best, Bivol Will Win The Rematch

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  • Silence
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    #21
    Bivol should be favourite at 175 but Canelo became gym rat again. He didn't even give a break after Ryder fight.

    I hope obesenoso gives jab and combination punching tips to him. I'll follow his trainings closely. I wanna see boxer Canelo again.

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    • SceneBoxer
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      #22
      I think most in boxing right now see a Bivol victory in the rematch fight... 175 or 168, Bivol is the most probable winner ...

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      • Lefty0616
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        #23
        Froch needs to be quiet. He's one of the most overrated boxers to make the HOF. Canelo is not past his prime. Bivol is legitimately a light heavyweight. The legits in their primes are too big for Canelo. It's time for Canelo to stop handpicking opponents, and get in the ring with one the dangerous middleweights that he keeps avoiding...... because at this point..... there's no other way to describe what he's doing - he's avoiding.

        There is no way he's going to beat Bivol.
        Last edited by Lefty0616; 05-10-2023, 08:42 PM.

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        • SUBZER0ED
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          #24
          If Canelo fights Bivol again, he'll go down as a hero, who wasn't afraid to get in there with someone that no one thought he could beat...but he will go down.

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          • Brother Mouzone
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            #25
            Nelo , not only is starting to decline a bit I think he is just tired and does not have that fire to train and fight like he used to.Don't blame him either dude has been at it since he was 15 .

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            • BlackRobb
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              #26
              A Bivol rematch is pointless. Bivol will hammer him again. Canelo needs to focus on 168 and more winnable fights.

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              • Sid-Knee
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                #27
                Originally posted by Lefty0616
                Froch needs to be quiet. He's one of the most overrated boxers to make the HOF. Canelo is not past his prime. Bivol is legitimately a light heavyweight. The legits in their primes are too big for Canelo. It's time for Canelo to stop handpicking opponents, and get in the ring with one the dangerous middleweights that he keeps avoiding...... because at this point..... there's no other way to describe what he's doing - he's avoiding.

                There is no way he's going to beat Bivol.
                Froch is a legitimate HOF'er and ATG. Canelo never has been or ever will be. Calling Canelo great is grotesque and very much, overrating a fighter. Froch fought the best and beat the best. He did not go around draining opponents and waiting for them to age before pouncing. He didn't deny his opponents the proper amount of time to train like Canelo does. He didn't wait for them to look bad before fighting them. He didn't fight a mass of smaller opponents. He didn't get a load of robberies after losing fights the way Canelo does. He didn't fight inactive opponents to gain an advantage. Froch was a real warrior. A proper fighter. Canelo will never be that. He's never going to be that. Ever.

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                • Lefty0616
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                  Froch is a legitimate HOF'er and ATG. Canelo never has been or ever will be. Calling Canelo great is grotesque and very much, overrating a fighter. Froch fought the best and beat the best. He did not go around draining opponents and waiting for them to age before pouncing. He didn't deny his opponents the proper amount of time to train like Canelo does. He didn't wait for them to look bad before fighting them. He didn't fight a mass of smaller opponents. He didn't get a load of robberies after losing fights the way Canelo does. He didn't fight inactive opponents to gain an advantage. Froch was a real warrior. A proper fighter. Canelo will never be that. He's never going to be that. Ever.
                  The biggest fight/challenge Froch had in his career was against Andrew Ward, and he lost soundly. The only fight Canelo lost without question was against Bivol - a fighter he's smaller than. Canelo has been in a "Fight of the Year". Froch was never even in a fight mentioned as a runner-up.

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                  • Sammy7861992
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bro. Steve
                    Alvarez just doesn’t have the endurance of Bivol. Bivol is ultra-high energy, and he stays bouncy and springy for the entire 36 minutes. He showed the recipe for defeating Alvarez (who is a phenomenal talent despite the clenbuterol). To beat Canelo, you need marathon stamina, flashing in and out, side to side, fast jab, throw in the occasional 10-strike combination. And then, if you can take the punches Canelo throws, you can outpoint him and wear him to a weary frazzle.

                    That formula worked so well that Bivol will do it again. I don’t think Alvarez has the genetics for that kind of stamina. It’s something a guy is born with, or not. And to quote Sam Mossabini, even the best coach “can’t put in what God left out.”

                    I’m no boxing expert, but from where I sit, it looks like Alvarez-Bivol 2 will probably go much like the first one did.
                    U analysed better than most so called boxing experts lolu should take some of them idiots jobs , because most seem not too know much

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                    • Sammy7861992
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bro. Steve
                      Alvarez just doesn’t have the endurance of Bivol. Bivol is ultra-high energy, and he stays bouncy and springy for the entire 36 minutes. He showed the recipe for defeating Alvarez (who is a phenomenal talent despite the clenbuterol). To beat Canelo, you need marathon stamina, flashing in and out, side to side, fast jab, throw in the occasional 10-strike combination. And then, if you can take the punches Canelo throws, you can outpoint him and wear him to a weary frazzle.

                      That formula worked so well that Bivol will do it again. I don’t think Alvarez has the genetics for that kind of stamina. It’s something a guy is born with, or not. And to quote Sam Mossabini, even the best coach “can’t put in what God left out.”

                      I’m no boxing expert, but from where I sit, it looks like Alvarez-Bivol 2 will probably go much like the first one did.
                      But I think Canelo can do better if he goes back to the tactics he used Vs khan , and not look for haymakers and try to use speed , I remember Lennox Lewis saying something about that in between rounds , and that's when he started to catch khan when he got that advice, actually very good tactics to catch a guy who moves well , iv a guy in the gym that moves like that and everyone I know I'm sparring guys I try to watch tapes online of similar fights whether I do or not really makes a difference in the ring

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