Comments Thread For: Froch: I Think Canelo is Past His Best, Bivol Will Win The Rematch

[Sid-Knee]

You my friend, are hilarious. I do not recall Ward turning down a rematch with Froch. Ward capped that middleweight tournament by beating Froch. He may have been too exhausted for an immediate rematch, and could've used a break. If they had a rematch, the results would've been the same.

Also, reading is fundamental. While Floyd beat Canelo, it wasn't soundly. If I'm not mistaken, one of the judges had it a draw. And while I gave the nod slightly to Mayweather, he didn't beat Canelo soundly in my opinion. He did, however, welcome Canelo to Big Stage boxing. Canelo lost soundly to Bivol. I do not believe Lara beat Canelo, and I scored the first fight against GGG a draw (it was a close bout). I scored the second fight for Canelo.

Now let's get to overrated Froch's resume. Bute, Abraham, and Taylor. Are you freaking kidding me? Dirrell got robbed against Froch. And Froch never faced Calzaghe for some reason.

Groves, Kessler, and Johnson were his only commendable victories. And he lost once against Kessler.

While I'm highly disappointed in Canelo's cherry picking of opponents as of late, he still has a more impressive resume. Froch is absolutely some overrated trash. He retired early. Because of the level he achieved in his career (he had enough wins and bouts), he could only be matched against the top tier of the division going forward. He more than likely would have compiled many more losses.....which would have surely exposed him for the fraud that he was. This is why he retired. His win/loss record looked decent. He wanted it to stay at least decent.

RE Andre Ward: My smart phone is not too bright. It at times auto correct words even if I've spelled them correctly.

Ward refused the rematch in a small stadium holding 30,000 saying it wasn't big enough, even though he'd never fought in front of more than 10,000 before. He said it needed to be at Wembley stadium even though we hadn't done a stadium fight there at that point. It was delusional to ask for it. But it was the roadblock he was going with.

Froch made the mistake of trying to counter a fighter with faster hands and feet than him. Froch needed to push Ward on the back foot. You saw how tired Ward became in the last 3 rounds. Pushing him back from the start would be worse for him.

You're calling me hilarious while saying Floyd didn't dominate Canelo? Do you even know what irony is? Only someone literally deranged would think that drawn card was legit. Froch on the other hand only lost by 2 points on 2 cards which was my score card. Canelo didn't win a single round on my card against Floyd. However, the point was that Canelo lost his biggest fight but you now want move the goal posts. But do please point out the rounds Canelo won? I have to see someone actually try and give him rounds. Just for the shlts and giggles.

You went the same way the corrupt judges did in the 2 Golovkin fights? Of course you did. Mexicans do it all the time. But no, Golovkin won both those fights as the vast majority scored.

Wait, Taylor, Bute and Abraham aren't world class or something? Haha. Johnson is a better win? Groves? What???? You give no explanation at all. But please do. This is just meaningless waffle. You do actually have to explain yourself.

Dirrell disengaged all night until the last few rounds. He didn't win anything. Even The Ring had Froch winning. As did i.

Calzaghe was retied by the time Froch fought for his first world title against Pascal. Calzaghe had his last fight in November of 2008 against Jones. He even claimed Hopkins and Jones were to be has last fights. This was up at LightHeavy. Froch fought Pascal in December of 2008. Calzaghe wasn't going back down to SM.

Froch retired early? Sorry, but this is getting weirder by the minute. Froch was 38 when he retired. Froch didn't fight most of his fights against garbage at a young age like Mexicans do while everyone else is in the amateurs fighting the very best from around the world. He got into fighting world class fighters pretty quickly. World class fighters better than Canelo came close to fighting and beating.

List every world class win Canelo had without robberies or them being sabotaged? Please. Don't leave a single one off. Then we'll compare to give me another good laugh. Canelo's resume stinks as they all have the same identity of Canelo making sure they were at their weakest before he'd go anywhere near them.

Please list this SM division that was "Top tier" after Froch retired? The division went downhill after his retirement. Not up. But please list every name to give me yet another good laugh.

I'm really looking forward to your reply. Do not run off and refuse to justify everything you've written here. Don't do a Canelo and duck. Come straight back.

See you soon.

[Sid-Knee]

You my friend, are hilarious. I do not recall Ward turning down a rematch with Froch. Ward capped that middleweight tournament by beating Froch. He may have been too exhausted for an immediate rematch, and could've used a break. If they had a rematch, the results would've been the same.

Also, reading is fundamental. While Floyd beat Canelo, it wasn't soundly. If I'm not mistaken, one of the judges had it a draw. And while I gave the nod slightly to Mayweather, he didn't beat Canelo soundly in my opinion. He did, however, welcome Canelo to Big Stage boxing. Canelo lost soundly to Bivol. I do not believe Lara beat Canelo, and I scored the first fight against GGG a draw (it was a close bout). I scored the second fight for Canelo.

Now let's get to overrated Froch's resume. Bute, Abraham, and Taylor. Are you freaking kidding me? Dirrell got robbed against Froch. And Froch never faced Calzaghe for some reason.

Groves, Kessler, and Johnson were his only commendable victories. And he lost once against Kessler.

While I'm highly disappointed in Canelo's cherry picking of opponents as of late, he still has a more impressive resume. Froch is absolutely some overrated trash. He retired early. Because of the level he achieved in his career (he had enough wins and bouts), he could only be matched against the top tier of the division going forward. He more than likely would have compiled many more losses.....which would have surely exposed him for the fraud that he was. This is why he retired. His win/loss record looked decent. He wanted it to stay at least decent.

RE Andre Ward: My smart phone is not too bright. It at times auto correct words even if I've spelled them correctly.

Have you no wish to justify your comments? You're running off instead? Yep, like clockwork.

[Lefty0616]

Have you no wish to justify your comments? You're running off instead? Yep, like clockwork.

I'll respond in due time buddy. I have a life and work to attend to smh/lol

[Sid-Knee]

I'll respond in due time buddy. I have a life and work to attend to smh/lol

That's funny. Your green light has been on every day since you made your comments. I've seen many ways in which to deflect, but this is a first.

We'll break it down piece by piece...

Tell me how Froch retiring at the age 38 was too early according to you? Then tell me about the fighters he supposedly retired to duck (Froch never ducked anyone) as they got better according to you after his retirement.

[Lefty0616]

That's funny. Your green light has been on every day since you made your comments. I've seen many ways in which to deflect, but this is a first.

We'll break it down piece by piece...

Tell me how Froch retiring at the age 38 was too early according to you? Then tell me about the fighters he supposedly retired to duck (Froch never ducked anyone) as they got better according to you after his retirement.

I keep my page open at all times

[Sid-Knee]

I keep my page open at all times

No you don't. But are you going to actually answer to your comments or keep deflecting which proves you're writing nonsense and have no ability to justify your comments?

You know what the question is.

[Lefty0616]

Ward refused the rematch in a small stadium holding 30,000 saying it wasn't big enough, even though he'd never fought in front of more than 10,000 before. He said it needed to be at Wembley stadium even though we hadn't done a stadium fight there at that point. It was delusional to ask for it. But it was the roadblock he was going with.

Froch made the mistake of trying to counter a fighter with faster hands and feet than him. Froch needed to push Ward on the back foot. You saw how tired Ward became in the last 3 rounds. Pushing him back from the start would be worse for him.

You're calling me hilarious while saying Floyd didn't dominate Canelo? Do you even know what irony is? Only someone literally deranged would think that drawn card was legit. Froch on the other hand only lost by 2 points on 2 cards which was my score card. Canelo didn't win a single round on my card against Floyd. However, the point was that Canelo lost his biggest fight but you now want move the goal posts. But do please point out the rounds Canelo won? I have to see someone actually try and give him rounds. Just for the shlts and giggles.

You went the same way the corrupt judges did in the 2 Golovkin fights? Of course you did. Mexicans do it all the time. But no, Golovkin won both those fights as the vast majority scored.

Wait, Taylor, Bute and Abraham aren't world class or something? Haha. Johnson is a better win? Groves? What???? You give no explanation at all. But please do. This is just meaningless waffle. You do actually have to explain yourself.

Dirrell disengaged all night until the last few rounds. He didn't win anything. Even The Ring had Froch winning. As did i.

Calzaghe was retied by the time Froch fought for his first world title against Pascal. Calzaghe had his last fight in November of 2008 against Jones. He even claimed Hopkins and Jones were to be has last fights. This was up at LightHeavy. Froch fought Pascal in December of 2008. Calzaghe wasn't going back down to SM.

Froch retired early? Sorry, but this is getting weirder by the minute. Froch was 38 when he retired. Froch didn't fight most of his fights against garbage at a young age like Mexicans do while everyone else is in the amateurs fighting the very best from around the world. He got into fighting world class fighters pretty quickly. World class fighters better than Canelo came close to fighting and beating.

List every world class win Canelo had without robberies or them being sabotaged? Please. Don't leave a single one off. Then we'll compare to give me another good laugh. Canelo's resume stinks as they all have the same identity of Canelo making sure they were at their weakest before he'd go anywhere near them.

Please list this SM division that was "Top tier" after Froch retired? The division went downhill after his retirement. Not up. But please list every name to give me yet another good laugh.

I'm really looking forward to your reply. Do not run off and refuse to justify everything you've written here. Don't do a Canelo and duck. Come straight back.

See you soon.

Hey. I've had some down time. You must really think your points were hitting hard enough to scare me away, lol. Number one, we're sharing our thoughts and opinions. Two, I never have a problem engaging in a respectable debate.

I guess at this point Ward, felt if he was going to face Froch in his environment once again, he'd want to do it on the most impressive stage imaginable. Every entertainer from US dreams about holding court in Wembley... that's if they're going to entertain abroad. I can only speculate, but Ward probably wanted to make sure he could make as much money as possible - especially since he would be entering into a hostile environment. Ward, the first time around, had to deal with a very hostile crowd known for it's prejudiced nature. Remember the SOB chants? I'm sure other things were said to him and his family. Also, although I'm almost certain Ward would handle Froch again with no problem, there would always be a chance he'd get robbed. I stand by my comments, Dirrell got robbed against Froch. Per the US ringside analysts (not judges), they were split as to who won. The majority felt Dirrell won on points. I did. Back to Ward VS Froch. It doesn't matter what strategy Froch used in a rematch, he would lose against Ward. His only chance would be a surprise ko punch. He had a puncher's chance, only (not a better boxers chance). He was schooled by Ward in the first fight. His body language and words to his corner backed that up. Judges get it wrong all the time. No matter how close a judge may have had it, it was an easy Ward victory. Canelo is wasting his time contemplating a rematch with Bivol. He won't win.

While I believe Canelo has gotten into the habit of handpicking opponents as of late, his resume is still impressive. It's better than Froch. I'll give you some of his key victories later.

I remember watching Floyd VS Canelo, and while Floyd gave a boxing lesson at times, he was too inactive throughout the fight. I score fights. And I remember before the scores were announced, telling the group I watched the fight with, that the fight is closer than they think. And sure enough one judge scored it a draw. I actually gave the nod to Floyd, slightly. One of the reasons Floyd never gave Canelo a rematch is because he barely escaped with his "0", and Canelo improved. Floyd didn't want an improved Canelo. He fought weaker opponents like Robert Guerrero instead.

And, yes my green light is always on. I keep my favorite pages open on my phone. Don't you?

[Sid-Knee]

Hey. I've had some down time. You must really think your points were hitting hard enough to scare me away, lol. Number one, we're sharing our thoughts and opinions. Two, I never have a problem engaging in a respectable debate.

I guess at this point Ward, felt if he was going to face Froch in his environment once again, he'd want to do it on the most impressive stage imaginable. Every entertainer from US dreams about holding court in Wembley... that's if they're going to entertain abroad. I can only speculate, but Ward probably wanted to make sure he could make as much money as possible - especially since he would be entering into a hostile environment. Ward, the first time around, had to deal with a very hostile crowd known for it's prejudiced nature. Remember the SOB chants? I'm sure other things were said to him and his family. Also, although I'm almost certain Ward would handle Froch again with no problem, there would always be a chance he'd get robbed. I stand by my comments, Dirrell got robbed against Froch. Per the US ringside analysts (not judges), they were split as to who won. The majority felt Dirrell won on points. I did. Back to Ward VS Froch. It doesn't matter what strategy Froch used in a rematch, he would lose against Ward. His only chance would be a surprise ko punch. He had a puncher's chance, only (not a better boxers chance). He was schooled by Ward in the first fight. His body language and words to his corner backed that up. Judges get it wrong all the time. No matter how close a judge may have had it, it was an easy Ward victory. Canelo is wasting his time contemplating a rematch with Bivol. He won't win.

While I believe Canelo has gotten into the habit of handpicking opponents as of late, his resume is still impressive. It's better than Froch. I'll give you some of his key victories later.

I remember watching Floyd VS Canelo, and while Floyd gave a boxing lesson at times, he was too inactive throughout the fight. I score fights. And I remember before the scores were announced, telling the group I watched the fight with, that the fight is closer than they think. And sure enough one judge scored it a draw. I actually gave the nod to Floyd, slightly. One of the reasons Floyd never gave Canelo a rematch is because he barely escaped with his "0", and Canelo improved. Floyd didn't want an improved Canelo. He fought weaker opponents like Robert Guerrero instead.

And, yes my green light is always on. I keep my favorite pages open on my phone. Don't you?

I don't want a mass of talking points on the page as deflections come in far too much. We'll break it down piece by piece. One or two points at a time.

How is Carl Froch retiring at the age of 38 too early according to you? Who are these SM's who were better than Froch's era where he supposedly retired so he could duck according to you?