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  • #31
    I do think Wilder gets the win against Joshua. Ruiz knocked Joshua out. Anyone want to say that Ruiz hits harder than Wilder? Wilder lands that right on everyone he's ever fought, and only Fury has been able to get up again. Heavyweight Amir Khan is not going to be able to.

    And Fury has Wilder's number. I think it would be more competitive if Wilder came in lighter and didn't gas out so fast, but I don't really see Wilder winning.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
      I do think Wilder gets the win against Joshua. Ruiz knocked Joshua out. Anyone want to say that Ruiz hits harder than Wilder? Wilder lands that right on everyone he's ever fought, and only Fury has been able to get up again. Heavyweight Amir Khan is not going to be able to.

      And Fury has Wilder's number. I think it would be more competitive if Wilder came in lighter and didn't gas out so fast, but I don't really see Wilder winning.
      A knock-out is when a fighter is down for the count of 10.

      Ruiz Junior did not knock Joshua out.

      Joshua was stopped on his feet, smiling.

      Don't be surprised if Wilder hits Joshua, and Joshua is still there in the fight.

      Wilder has power, but that power has a limited range. Ruiz Junior hits with good power, and has a vast range with his power 'People are still overlooking the fact, that Joshua kept on getting back up'.

      Fury has been knocked down more times than Joshua in his career. Even if you take Wilder off Fury's resume, he was getting ****** about and decked early on in his career by domestic to European level fighters.

      Note: Just don't be surprised if the effect of Wilder's power vs Joshua, is not as dramatically effected like people are anticipating. Yes Wilder can hurt Joshua, but I am not so sure that soon as he lands a punch? That the fight will be over etc.
      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-10-2023, 02:41 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

        A knock-out is when a fighter is down for the count of 10.

        Ruiz Junior did not knock Joshua out.

        Joshua was stopped on his feet, smiling.

        Don't be surprised if Wilder hits Joshua, and Joshua is still there in the fight.

        Wilder has power, but that power has a limited range. Ruiz Junior hits with good power, and has a vast range with his power 'People are still overlooking the fact, that Joshua kept on getting back up'.

        Fury has been knocked down more times than Joshua in his career. Even if you take Wilder off Fury's resume, he was getting ****** about and decked early on in his career by domestic to European level fighters.

        Note: Just don't be surprised if the effect of Wilder's power vs Joshua, is not as dramatically effected like people are anticipating. Yes Wilder can hurt Joshua, but I am not so sure that soon as he lands a punch? That the fight will be over etc.
        That's almost worse for Joshua. He's not really mentally there, and seems to have a lot of quit in him. Even if it's not lights out, he hasn't shown he can get wobbled and still continue. We'll see if the fight even happens, and who the man is on the day.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

          That's almost worse for Joshua. He's not really mentally there, and seems to have a lot of quit in him. Even if it's not lights out, he hasn't shown he can get wobbled and still continue. We'll see if the fight even happens, and who the man is on the day.
          Joshua has shown that he can be badly hurt, and fight through it ON the biggest stage vs Kiltschko.

          It is up to yourself, whether you want to acknowledge these feats or run with a narrative.

          I rate Wilder extremely highly, but the fact remains? Wilder has been ****** out by a fighter, who for 95% of his career was not regarded as a big puncher.

          And I still don't think Tyson Fury is a monster puncher at Heavyweight 'Fury could not even decked or legitimate knock-out a semi-retired Derek Chisora' etc.

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          • #35
            I'll have to make a betting account and put some $$ on Wilder if this fight comes to fruition.

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            • #36
              Josh wins this. Wilder dont seem to be able to last 12 rounds when up against elites, doesn't give me much faith

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              • #37
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                Joshua has shown that he can be badly hurt, and fight through it ON the biggest stage vs Kiltschko.

                It is up to yourself, whether you want to acknowledge these feats or run with a narrative.

                I rate Wilder extremely highly, but the fact remains? Wilder has been ****** out by a fighter, who for 95% of his career was not regarded as a big puncher.

                And I still don't think Tyson Fury is a monster puncher at Heavyweight 'Fury could not even decked or legitimate knock-out a semi-retired Derek Chisora' etc.
                You still on about a fight that happened 6 years ago? As if nothing happened in the interim, like losing 3 times? Fact is, after the Ruiz fight he lost the sense that he was invincible, and has tried to get by on boxing skill. But then he got outclassed twice there by a smaller man. Since you think this Joshua is anything like the guy who fought Klitschko, as far as I'm concerned you're sadly deluded and there's no point in discussing further. We're just going to have to agree to disagree and wait and see what happens if this fight even happens.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

                  Again little kid. Fury chooses to come into the fight over weight. If you want to use your logic then Jarrell Miller is way bigger than Tyson Fury right? Because Miller frequently comes in to his bouts at 300 pounds or even over 300 pounds. Also Fury isn't 2 inches taller than Wilder lol. Wilder is a little over 6'6 and Tyson Fury is 6'7. Wait you are one of those little kids who thinks Fury is 6'9. Yeah I won't waste my time with people like you.
                  Miller is just heavier.

                  Fury is bigger than Wilder in every single dimension. He's taller, longer, heavier, broader, thicker.

                  I don't know how you can argue against Fury being the bigger man. It's just a fact.

                  And he's also the better boxer. That bit is subjective but it's pretty much a fact.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

                    More people thought he lost. Boased people? Lmfao...them judges were biased then? He was basically outboxed for the majority of the 1st fight by an out of shape Fury. An in shape Fury beat up Wilder, then managed to khtfo the next 2.
                    You ever head of a typo, a mistake? Your whole life is a mistake so you should be familiar with that term. The judges had it a draw. If you think landing 13 more punches in 12 rounds is out boxing then that is your problem. The you say Fury was out of shape? Cute and Wilder was out of shape in their next two fights. Wilder is a natural 210-215 pound man who came in the ring heavy. You will make excuse for Fury being out of shape and then ignore when Wilder was out of shape.

                    Also you do realize Tyson Fury weighed more against Wilder in their final 2 fights right? So how is Fury weighing 256 pounds in their first fight considered out of shape but Fury weighing 270 pounds not out shape? You clearly don't know what you are talking about but no Tyson Fury fanboy does. Wilder should of got the win in their first fight. Came into the next two bouts heavier than he should of and then even then dropped Tyson Fury twice in their third fight with glancing blows. If Wilder was 215 pounds in their third fight he wouldn't of got tired and he would of stopped Fury. Hell if Wilder would learn to be more patient when he has a fighter hurt he would still stopped Fury even though Wilder was heavier.

                    Lol I just looked back at my first comment. I typed biased. I didn't edit my first post either. I don't where you go boased but the fact you think Tyson Fury running from Wilder in their first bout while landing 84 punches is out boxing somebody pretty much tells me you lack intelligence.
                    Last edited by shawnkemp804; 05-10-2023, 04:53 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Toffee View Post

                      Miller is just heavier.

                      Fury is bigger than Wilder in every single dimension. He's taller, longer, heavier, broader, thicker.

                      I don't know how you can argue against Fury being the bigger man. It's just a fact.

                      And he's also the better boxer. That bit is subjective but it's pretty much a fact.
                      Lol Fury is a half a inch taller and fat. Miller is 60 pounds heavier than Fury. Which means he is much bigger than Fury. Also having longer arms doesn't make you bigger.

                      So Fury isn't much bigger than Wilder. Wilder is a man who comes in the ring in shape while Fury is a fat drug addict steroid cheat who comes in the ring out of shape.

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