Comments Thread For: Wilder's Coach: Joshua is Right in Line To Get Knocked Out By Deontay

[shawnkemp804]

All these Wilder fans are forgetting very important things.

1. The last real Wilder`s win dates in 2019, Ortiz rematch.

2. Wilder clearly took more damage in two Fury stoppage losses than AJ did in two Usyk losses

3. With Wilder being inactive since october 2022, Wilder will clearly be more rusty

4. People still pretend like Wilder is the same like he was before Fury wars and they also pretend like Joshua is some bum like the most of guys Wilder stopped.

Lol Joshua is a bum and so is Wilder. Joshua's best win is his career is against a old Wlad in a fight he was almost stopped in. Wilder's best win is against a old Ortiz. The main difference is Wilder still has confidence in himself and Joshua doesn't Wilder would most likely knock out Joshua.

[shawnkemp804]

Kiltschko I believe with a single punch, has comparable power to Wilder. Kiltschko did land a more powerful and technically superior punch, than Wilder has ever hit Fury with.

Joshua got up, came through more bombarment to still win that fight.

Joshua has been knocked down a less number of times than Fury, even though throughout his career? When you really check his record, he has fought a higher number of World level fighters and bigger punchers than Fury.

Ruiz Junior clearly has good power, and is one of the better combination punchers at Heavyweight with a solid inside game. That is why overall, his offense at his peak, WAS one of the best offenses in the Heavyweight division 'Understand, that I am rating Ruiz Junior vs this era of Heavyweights not on a all-time great scale'.

Note: For sure Wilder can hurt Joshua, but I am just not so sure that with a single punch? Wilder is definitely going to alter the course of the fight with Joshua.

Wilder has not really been able to do this at World & Elite level for sometime etc.

First off Wlad was way past his prime. Wilder isn't, Second When Wlad knocked Joshua down he wasn't really aggressive and tried to finish the show like Wilder would be. Also do you know how many years ago that Joshua and Wlad took place? Joshua is even more timid now.

Tyson Fury beat a old Wlad and Deontay Wilder and that is it. Joshua beat who? Dillian Whyte a guy who was never that good? Charles Martin? Dominic Breazeale? Eric Molina? Joseph Parker a guy who was never that good? A old Alexander Povetkin?Kubrat Pulev? You can say the same thing about Wider, Who did he face. Lower tiered guys. Which has nothing to do with if Wilder lands his best punch on Joshua the fight is over.

[Willow The Wisp]

An unbiased view would have to be that over three fights, Fury demonstrated his superiority. Wilder's route to success all along was lay the big right hand on him and knock him out. He laid the big right hand on him in all three fights. He didn't knock him out. He didn't get a single win in three fights.

If, in a best of three, you get zero wins, and your opponent gets two wins, I'd say that closes the book on it.

I totally agree. But "one sided rivalry" is no more accurately applied to Fury-Wilder than it would be to, say; the Ali-Frazier trilogy. Hence the need for a trilogy.

[El_Mero]

Cute story, I am blocking you. I don't type to kids, Tyson Fury fanboys or Rocky Marciano fanboys. As I said stick to playing video games and watching cartoons kid. What you type about boxing doesn't concern me. Bye bye.

Block all you want cheerleader, kick rocks puto

[PRINCEKOOL]

First off Wlad was way past his prime. Wilder isn't, Second When Wlad knocked Joshua down he wasn't really aggressive and tried to finish the show like Wilder would be. Also do you know how many years ago that Joshua and Wlad took place? Joshua is even more timid now.

Tyson Fury beat a old Wlad and Deontay Wilder and that is it. Joshua beat who? Dillian Whyte a guy who was never that good? Charles Martin? Dominic Breazeale? Eric Molina? Joseph Parker a guy who was never that good? A old Alexander Povetkin?Kubrat Pulev? You can say the same thing about Wider, Who did he face. Lower tiered guys. Which has nothing to do with if Wilder lands his best punch on Joshua the fight is over.

You are running with a narrative, do yourself a favor and stop. I don't think Joshua is timid like people are trying to make out, he is just more composed now 'And that trait comes with experience'.

Joshua objectively has beaten more World level fighters than Fury & Wilder. Your reference to a fighters age is redundant, in sport you are ether good enough or you are not 'You can ether have a fight, or not. That is the formula to being a World level fighter in boxing'.

Anything else you bring up beyond this formula, is just subjective nonsense.

Anthony Joshua objectively has beaten more World level fighters, when they were still operating at World level. Povetkin & Pulev were World level fighters 'That is a fact'.

Both Tyson Fury & Deontay Wilder, avoided fighting Joshua before his lost to Ruiz Junior.

Everyone who is honest, knows this deep down.

Fury & Wilder both fought each other to avoid Joshua, because they both believed each other 'To be stylistically a easier fight than Joshua'.

And I honestly still think Fury, is definitely still apprehensive in fighting Joshua.

Note: All I am going to say is this? Out of Fury, Wilder and Joshua. Anthony Joshua is the most game fighter, when it comes to actually taking fights. Out of the universally perceived top-4 Heavyweights it is Fury & Wilder, who seem like they don't really want to fight other top Heavyweights apart from each other.

So you can continue to keep running with this narrative that Joshua is petrified. But don't be surprised that when and if these fights come along, the lack of experience at World & Elite level skill for skill may actually show up inside the ring for both Fury & Wilder.

Mate, I am not actually trying to disprove anything you say 'It's not really my main aim here'. You can probably tell from reading my posts that, I am just kind of debating this whole dynamic between these top heavyweights.

I just think right now in Joshua's career, the critics have been very dramatic regarding his performances 'And they don't want to acknowledge the positives'.

[shawnkemp804]

You are running with a narrative, do yourself a favor and stop. I don't think Joshua is timid like people are trying to make out, he is just more composed now 'And that trait comes with experience'.

Joshua objectively has beaten more World level fighters than Fury & Wilder. Your reference to a fighters age is redundant, in sport you are ether good enough or you are not 'You can ether have a fight, or not. That is the formula to being a World level fighter in boxing'.

Anything else you bring up beyond this formula, is just subjective nonsense.

Anthony Joshua objectively has beaten more World level fighters, when they were still operating at World level. Povetkin & Pulev were World level fighters 'That is a fact'.

Both Tyson Fury & Deontay Wilder, avoided fighting Joshua before his lost to Ruiz Junior.

Everyone who is honest, knows this deep down.

Fury & Wilder both fought each other to avoid Joshua, because they both believed each other 'To be stylistically a easier fight than Joshua'.

And I honestly still think Fury, is definitely still apprehensive in fighting Joshua.

Note: All I am going to say is this? Out of Fury, Wilder and Joshua. Anthony Joshua is the most game fighter, when it comes to actually taking fights. Out of the universally perceived top-4 Heavyweights it is Fury & Wilder, who seem like they don't really want to fight other top Heavyweights apart from each other.

So you can continue to keep running with this narrative that Joshua is petrified. But don't be surprised that when and if these fights come along, the lack of experience at World & Elite level skill for skill may actually show up inside the ring for both Fury & Wilder.

Mate, I am not actually trying to disprove anything you say 'It's not really my main aim here'. You can probably tell from reading my posts that, I am just kind of debating this whole dynamic between these top heavyweights.

I just think right now in Joshua's career, the critics have been very dramatic regarding his performances 'And they don't want to acknowledge the positives'.

The fact is you don't know anything about boxing. The other fact is I am ignoring you.

[Monty Fisto]

I totally agree. But "one sided rivalry" is no more accurately applied to Fury-Wilder than it would be to, say; the Ali-Frazier trilogy. Hence the need for a trilogy.

Fair enough.