Canelo is outside his prime but why was he expected to stop Ryder?

[elfag]

because Ryder is a ***ing bum?


is that too hard to understand?

[anonymous2.0]

Going into the fight I thought it would be a decision win, but in the middle rounds when Canelo was teeing off with right straights that landed flush on Ryder's face I started to expect a KO. I guess it was a both Canelo losing a step and John refusing to go down.

[deathofaclown]

We have entered a silly age in boxing now where fighters are overrated if they don't knock everyone out.

The fighters who are supposed to be all time greats had plenty of decision wins v fighters considered not on their level.

Canelo has a 61% KO ratio. He isn't some Wilder or Beterbiev type. He's a decent puncher, nothing more and nothing less. Plenty of fighters can go 12 with him.

[tritium_arma]

Because Canelo himself said he was injured in the Bivol and Golovkin fight and with his recent surgery, he said "expect something special" in this fight. He also KO'd most of the other champions at 168 and you would think Ryder's come forward, terrible footwork style would play into Canelo's hands.

[Roadblock]

Bivol damaged Canelo. Fighting Benavidez would be suicide let alone Bivol rematch.

He would have more chance with Benavidez because David would want to take him out, Bivol is happy to score points win by stick and move, Canelo is tough and hits hard which gives him a good chance with anyone in his weight class that wants to trade.

[Roadblock]

Because Canelo himself said he was injured in the Bivol and Golovkin fight and with his recent surgery, he said "expect something special" in this fight. He also KO'd most of the other champions at 168 and you would think Ryder's come forward, terrible footwork style would play into Canelo's hands.

Ryder was gone but was fighting the fight of his life he was determined to go out on his shield, when a guy rises above his best like that they give great fighters problems, its all through history with every ATG having had it happen.

[famicommander]

How weird it is to read that Canelo is or might be past his prime. Just barely over a year ago, people had the belief he was going to beat damn near anyone up to whatever weight class. It's amazing how much a year can change things.

Going 36 rounds with GGG took more out of him than anyone realized. The Bivol fight didn't help either.

[champion4ever]

I know Ryder was stopped by Blackwell (a fight I've never seen) but what about Ryder ever told us he didn't have a good chin? He always seemed like a tough mfer to me.

Yes, because this was a handpicked opponent. This was not a fight that boxing fans wanted to see. There was simply no demand for it.

I doubt if it sold more than 300K PPV buys tonight. He could have easily fought a David Benavidez or a David Morrell but instead chose to fight an overmatched and over achieving Euro bum.

Therefore, there was no excuse for him to not have knocked him out. If Canelo couldn't or wasn't going to stop him then there was no need to have picked him in the first place Mammoth after promising one.

[Oracle01]

Ryder is a domestic level british fighter who is there to be hit, custom made for Canelo and he still couldn't stop him. Benavidez would stop Ryder in 3-4 rounds.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Canelo UD was 5/1 with the bookmakers. I knew John wouldn’t fold easily. Didn’t expect him to see the final bell after the early knockdown and facial damage though.