Better Boxer Floyd or Sugar Ray Leonard?

[Roadblock]

I see you got the stutters pimple, you even do that like a female lol, such a crying little girl you are lol

Explain prime to me will you sweetie, with details on when it starts and when it finished, come on darling show the forum what you know about boxing.

[djtmal]

I think you need a break fam. You sounding quite moist

[Roadblock]

I think you need a break fam. You sounding quite moist

Typical lol, ok sweetness go powder your nose to avoid the questions then come back with your hands on your hips while crowing about something left field, blows a big kiss as your fat ass shimmies out the door.

[djtmal]

See this is what happens when these Floyd boys get hit with the truth.

Nobody's buying that they can't substitute Victor Ortiz and Marcos Madonna for Duran and Hearns, so they start name calling, acting weird and sounding moist.

[LeOoze]

What do you mean accomplished more ? I see he won the gold where Floyd was robbed of a gold medal , but as a pro what do you mean.

Leonard beat:

prime undefeated Wilfred Benitez
prime Duran
prime undefeated Hearns
Hagler (not prime, but still great)

That's 4 ATG wins factoring the opposition and how good they were at the time. Those 4 wins are better than Floyd's 4 best wins.

[El_Mero]

Better boxer - FMJ
Better to watch - SRL

[garfios]

Greater encompasses more than beating 3 guys, its the magnitude of the all. I think Floyd achieved more and influenced the sport more this is where greater has meaning which has nothing to do with who is a better boxer, it's very hard to compare guys from different eras, Hearns Duran and Leonard were all beaten by lesser fighters than Mayweather, which does not imply Floyd beats them, but what it does do is humanize them because people are starstruck by the long time hype around the golden eras, with the idea they can't be beaten, and that's not true there is very little between the true greats, enough so that one being in the zone and the other being an inch outside it and he loses.

Greater doesn't mean better.

They were beaten past their prime, and DeJesus was a heck of a fighter, the one that took the 0 from Duran. Those three guys you mentioned, are legends in their own right. Leonard fought better competition, period.

[garfios]

You have no clue of prime, he was the same prime as who he beat, he was the best of his era by far, he made Manny Canelo and JMM look like chumps, he beat the best of his era.

You have such feminine ways of debating, the way you chop up leave out and never compare anything directly to your guy is all female lol

You're talking about Marquez? The same guy he missed weight and didn't try to make it. Pacquio would have been ko by Leonard, Hearns and Duran, I'm not sure in which round

[Roadblock]

Leonard beat:

prime undefeated Wilfred Benitez
prime Duran
prime undefeated Hearns
Hagler (not prime, but still great)

That's 4 ATG wins factoring the opposition and how good they were at the time. Those 4 wins are better than Floyd's 4 best wins.

Ah ok I thought accomplishments took in records that were broken belts opponents overall etc etc , yes the level of fighters has meaning with the question does 4 best 25 and Rays name in history is built around those four guys as they are built around him, I don't think they were any greater than other greats, all things equal there is not a lot between greats, those 4 also had the opportunity and hype on their side because they were in the same time, they all ducked McCallum, they all got beat and struggled, they were all human and especially so when you take them out of each resume and then look what is left, this where we see the overall quality as opposed to a few greats

Is a guy that started at 130 beat Duran twice, beat Leonard, beat Mancini and Vinny Paz, beat Rosario and Rameriz, lost to Oscar Trinidad and Chavez, if you want ring resume Hector Camacho trumps most.

Point Im making is the greatest best etc is all subjective hogwash, like all boxing debates its wishy-washy arguing beliefs, not facts.

Floyd easily has the skills to beat all 4 as Ive said lesser fighters than Floyd beat them, the thing that bothers me the most in these fantasy match ups is Floyd is not a WW and that size works against him when facing bigger ATG WWs, you never see them crowing about Morales would beat Floyd because its shot down in no time, you never get these threads with Floyds best weights its always the other end up to MWs, all Im really comfortable saying is that Floyd proved he is the best fighter of his era and I like his chances of beating any fighter in history 130/140 pounds, above that it's too much of an disadvantage against a true ATG, be like saying a great 118 guy is going to hang with Mayweather at 135, when you hit a level weight matters, they might play around with pounds to make fights happen but when best meets best on their best night every ounce matters.

[Roadblock]

You're talking about Marquez? The same guy he missed weight and didn't try to make it. Pacquio would have been ko by Leonard, Hearns and Duran, I'm not sure in which round

If you think that's why he beat Marquez the way he did that's on you I know what I seen, and so does JMM and Berstien know what they seen, what was it Mayweather is from another planet that you cant beat him with a stick, not a word about how he was 2lbs bigger at the weighin being 146.

Im not into fan BS just actuals, he missed the weight by 2lbs it cost him money yet it had no bearing on the fight what so ever, JMM weighed 150 lbs the exact same weight he weighed KOing Manny, you never heard of JMM calling for a rematch lol.

Anyway is what it is , Floyd Mayweather is the best of his era.