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  • #21
    Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

    Agreed!
    But Question
    Why didn't You Champion4ever stop it with the excuses when Wilder lost 2 fights fair and square to Tyson Fury?
    Hmmmmm
    Didn't Wilder also just lost to the better Fighter
    Lol

    LOL, I knew you would eventually show up and the answer to your question is: Hell no! It's not even close. The two are very different. Tyson Fury outright cheated. Where as Gervonta Davis resorted to gamesmanship.

    Ryan Garcia agreed to all of the terms and stipulations that was set forth by Team Davis like: The catchweight and rehydration clause. Therefore, he knew full well in advance what he was doing and what he was getting himself into. So, he got exactly what he bargained for.

    However, on the other hand Deontay Wilder never agreed to allow Fury to wear tampered gloves; Which looked as if the padding was removed from them or to punch him through the wrist area of his floppy gloves with his bare knuckle fists or get rabbit punched behind the head.

    Those tactics were both dangerous and illegal.​

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    • #22
      Originally posted by trippleupper View Post
      "I thought [physically] Ryan looked great, his skin still had moisture on it when I watched him"

      Did the moisture disappear when he didn't watch him?
      Great question!

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      • #23
        Originally posted by champion4ever View Post


        LOL, I knew you would eventually show up and the answer to your question is: Hell no! It's not even close. The two are very different. Tyson Fury outright cheated. Where as Gervonta Davis resorted to gamesmanship.

        Ryan Garcia agreed to all of the terms and stipulations that was set forth by Team Davis like: The catchweight and rehydration clause. Therefore, he knew full well in advance what he was doing and what he was getting himself into. So, he got exactly what he bargained for.

        However, on the other hand Deontay Wilder never agreed to allow Fury to wear tampered gloves; Which looked as if the padding was removed from them or to punch him through the wrist area of his floppy gloves with his bare knuckle fists or get rabbit punched behind the head.

        Those tactics were both dangerous and illegal.​
        I can't believe after nearly 3 yrs You still live in that delusional Dream world that Tyson Fury had to cheat to defeat Deontay Wilder......
        But the same Tyson Fury defeated Klitsckho Whyte & Chisora without cheating....fair & square
        Sheeesh
        You Champion4ever have Issues
        #WilderFanboyAlert!!!!!!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355 View Post
          He lost to the better fighter period. Tank is superior in every viable category that exists in boxing. Better speed, power, more technically sound, better defensively. Hell what else is there?
          That’s why it’s a shame that Tank’s team tarnished the victory by draining Ryan and then also imposing a rehydration clause.

          It wasn’t necessary to do that and leaves a bad taste.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

            He is saying it from the right place and he gives reasons that he seen, these people in here say he was drained because there were weight clauses like that means automatic draining, it doesn't you got to look at all the physical things that prove or disprove it from weighin to the fight, and there was nothing that looked like symptoms of a draining, nothing at all, I defy anybody to name precisely where Ryan showed he was drained, none of them can because symptoms are not there.
            ...but when it comes to Manny beating the brakes off Oscar, the excuse is Oscar was drained....

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            • #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

              That’s why it’s a shame that Tank’s team tarnished the victory by draining Ryan and then also imposing a rehydration clause.

              It wasn’t necessary to do that and leaves a bad taste.
              If you want to say it’s tainted then whatever that’s your opinion. But the IBF has been using that same rehydration method for a few years now. Once people started getting killed and seriously injured in the ring they made that adjustment. People shouldn’t be able to rehydrate 25 to 30 pounds overnight.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355 View Post

                If you want to say it’s tainted then whatever that’s your opinion. But the IBF has been using that same rehydration method for a few years now. Once people started getting killed and seriously injured in the ring they made that adjustment. People shouldn’t be able to rehydrate 25 to 30 pounds overnight.
                Rehydration method AND a catchweight AND a later weigh-in time? The IBF doesn’t do that.

                If Tank wants people to celebrate him being simply better than the other guy then he shouldn’t resort to all that bullsh1t. That way it doesn’t become a talking point.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                  Rehydration method AND a catchweight AND a later weigh-in time? The IBF doesn’t do that.

                  If Tank wants people to celebrate him being simply better than the other guy then he shouldn’t resort to all that bullsh1t. That way it doesn’t become a talking point.
                  Do you think people should be able to rehydrate 25 to 30 pounds overnight? Even the WBC has training camps weight requirements.

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                  • #29
                    It had everything to do with it. Otherwise tank woiuldve fought at 140 if it makes no difference and no hydration clause. Beat Ryan with no clauses at 140 and then credit will be given for first win.
                    But maybe it didnt have anything to do with win. But Tank obviously hoped it would help him beat Ryan
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 05-02-2023, 10:36 AM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by uniquehump View Post

                      How, if Ryan wanted the fight over 135? If the fight was at 135, then there would be no weight stipulations.
                      I’ll just answer the first word. How?
                      He put a weight clause in against Garcia and Barrios. He said when asked about it “it’s part of boxing, all the greats do it”. That hurts his legacy. Not fighting Loma years ago hurts it worse. It’s ok though, Shakur is fixing to make Tank a part of his legacy. Either in the ring or by making him going into hiding again.
                      Smash Smash likes this.

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