Comments Thread For: Hopkins Does Not Believe Weight Clauses Played Role in Ryan Garcia Loss

[Bronx2245]

Oh B-Hop! The haters are coming for you now!

[champion4ever]

But Ryan is the one with the biggest list of excuses

I agree. No truer words have ever been spoken. Ryan got exactly what he bargain for and that was an ass whupping from a much smaller man

[greeneye99]

Thanks, BHops for telling the truth. There was nothing physically wrong with Garcia’s conditioning.

He just lost to the better fighter that’s all. So everyone just needs to stop it with the excuses.

Ryan wasn’t weight drained. He lost the fight fair and square and because he decided to throw in the towel.

Agreed!
But Question
Why didn't You Champion4ever stop it with the excuses when Wilder lost 2 fights fair and square to Tyson Fury?
Hmmmmm
Didn't Wilder also just lost to the better Fighter
Lol

[PRINCEKOOL]

It played in role in effecting his performance, but? Garcia agreed to the terms, and both fighters had to make the weight.

If people within the sport want to remove the validity of these excuses being used 'Then the weigh in rules need to be altered'.

Boxing will need to bring back the use of 'The same day weigh in rule. Or alter the current system to such a extent, that catch weights and re-hydration clauses would be extremely difficult to apply'.

No fighter while subjected to the same day weigh in rule 'Would voluntary weight drain themselves by 20 pounds, to then attempt to regain that weight'.

Even fighters or coaches, that my not fully understand the science of physiology would instinctively know? That those type of training methodologies are only going to come with server consequences that must be avoided.

Note: So of course the re-hydration clause effected Garcia's conditioning and performance, but it also effected Tank Davis 'The only difference is, Tank Davis made the weight limit much more easier'.


I personally have stated many times before, the competition in the lower weight divisions within this modern era. 'Is at a worst level of purity than it has ever been in documented history, due to the modern day toxic weight draining culture'.

This culture not only involves fighters weight draining themselves, but it has many other bi-products 'Such as the use of catch weight fights and re-hydration clauses' etc.

[Smash]

who cares really what anybody believes, this person says this thing another says something else, they only people who really know are the guys and their teams, the rest is just speculation and opinions and excuses or whatever

[Boxing Beast]

Weight clauses are BS, Tank decided to tank his legacy by knowingly including them. Having a brain damaged fighter opine about it does not change that.

[Boxviewer]

He is saying it from the right place and he gives reasons that he seen, these people in here say he was drained because there were weight clauses like that means automatic draining, it doesn't you got to look at all the physical things that prove or disprove it from weighin to the fight, and there was nothing that looked like symptoms of a draining, nothing at all, I defy anybody to name precisely where Ryan showed he was drained, none of them can because symptoms are not there.

He was mentally drained. Like he said he felt weak on his way to ring but once the contest started he felt good, I guess till he got put on the canvas in round 2. In short, RG was skills wise and mentally not up to the task vs Tank.

BTW, they keep on saying that he had a brushed rib before the fight, then why did they put him in there to fight the biggest body puncher of the division? It doesn't make sense at all to me. In my opinion they are trying to create a narrative to make a possible rematch interesting.

[Boxfan83]

If a bantamweight put him down with a body shot, it wasnt the weight clauses. Plain and simple.

[uniquehump]

Weight clauses are BS, Tank decided to tank his legacy by knowingly including them. Having a brain damaged fighter opine about it does not change that.

How, if Ryan wanted the fight over 135? If the fight was at 135, then there would be no weight stipulations.

[Outwest Exp 355]

He lost to the better fighter period. Tank is superior in every viable category that exists in boxing. Better speed, power, more technically sound, better defensively. Hell what else is there?