Comments Thread For: Zhilei Zhang To Tyson Fury: If You're Looking To July - I'll Be Ready in July!

[jaded]

Wladimir isn't 6'6 and second Wlad was way past his prime when Fury fought him.

ZZ turns 40 tomorrow.

[shawnkemp804]

It makes sense.

Dubois and Parker are big punchers.

Joyce has technically been fighting professional for more than 16 fights.

Joyce was competing in the world boxing series, which was a competition 'That consisted of professionally styled fights'.

I personally just think the bombardment Joyce was under vs Parker, proved that he has really good durability.

And lets also factored this in? Joyce was not decked by Zhang 'The fight was stopped due to a server injury, again validating Joyce's durability'.

For me Joyce has a proven solid level of durability.

Note: I was one of the very few posters that was not backing Joyce 100% to beat Zhang.Because whether Joyce has been winning or losing, he has been getting wacked. Joyce was damaged in the aftermath of the Parker fight, I detected this in a few interviews during the aftermath of the fight 'And began to then raise the concern that Joyce by the time he gets his title fight, he might be burnt out'.

Although many people at the time of the Parker fight, were praising Joyce's durability 'And comparing him to George Foreman, I never got too carried away' etc.

Parker isn't a big puncher. Lol yeah you don't watch boxing. You just listen to other people and repeat what they say. Joseph Parker couldn't knock down, or hurt Junior Fa. So Fa must have a great chin to right? But old Lucas Browne knocked out Fa in 1 round. So Browne must be the hardest puncher eve right? Parker also couldn't hurt or knock down Jack Massey a blown up cruiserweight. So Massey must have a great chin too right?

Joyce has 16 pro bouts. So your opinion on the World Series of Boxing is just that, your opinion.

Also as I stated various fighters went the Distance with Zhang so those guys mus be way more durable than Joyce then right? To be known as being durable or having a great chin in boxing you need to have more than 16 pro bouts. You need have numerous bouts again guys who are known to be able to **** and take their punches. Joyce has yet to prove anything. He has 16 bouts and got stopped by a 40 year old D level fighter in Zhang that nobody though was good until he beat Joyce. Joyce was hurt badly by Zhang in the second round. Zhang punches couldn't faze Andrii Rudenko, Rodney Hernandez, Juan Goode, Glenn Thomas, and 5'9 190 pound Eric George.

[hugh grant]

Joe Joyce chin isn't indestructable. But that he beat Dubois, who strickens everyone his gloves touch, Joyce passed the chin check for me.
Dubois even koed his last opponent with one good knee

[PRINCEKOOL]

Parker isn't a big puncher. Lol yeah you don't watch boxing. You just listen to other people and repeat what they say. Joseph Parker couldn't knock down, or hurt Junior Fa. So Fa must have a great chin to right? But old Lucas Browne knocked out Fa in 1 round. So Browne must be the hardest puncher eve right? Parker also couldn't hurt or knock down Jack Massey a blown up cruiserweight. So Massey must have a great chin too right?

Joyce has 16 pro bouts. So your opinion on the World Series of Boxing is just that, your opinion.

Also as I stated various fighters went the Distance with Zhang so those guys mus be way more durable than Joyce then right? To be known as being durable or having a great chin in boxing you need to have more than 16 pro bouts. You need have numerous bouts again guys who are known to be able to **** and take their punches. Joyce has yet to prove anything. He has 16 bouts and got stopped by a 40 year old D level fighter in Zhang that nobody though was good until he beat Joyce. Joyce was hurt badly by Zhang in the second round. Zhang punches couldn't faze Andrii Rudenko, Rodney Hernandez, Juan Goode, Glenn Thomas, and 5'9 190 pound Eric George.

Do you think Joyce has bad durability, yes or no?

Joyce has a good level of durability, that is what I am saying 'That is what his performances prove'.

You have not disproved, Joyce's durability 'You are aware of that mate?'.

Now wait a minute, you have just accused me of apparently listening to what other people say and just repeating.

But then in your post up above you say this.

Joyce has yet to prove anything. He has 16 bouts and got stopped by a 40 year old D level fighter in Zhang that nobody though was good until he beat Joyce.

You need to check yourself before, you attempt to catch me out. Because it looks like you are the one listening and just repeating what other people say and think 'This statement up above of yours displays that kind of behavior'.

Parker has decked one of the last versions of Derek Chisora multiple times who actually trained to win. For me that is enough evidence and a feat of achievement, which proves that he has a good level of punching power.

All I was stating in my posts, is that Joe Joyce has a good level of durability. I was not championing any other area of his game 'Because I was one of the few posters who saw the danger and was not backing him 100% to beat Zhang'.

Zhang is also a Olympic medalist, and is pushing and going the distance with world level fighters like Hrgovic 'So again, he cannot objectively be a D level fighter mate'.

Note: Just some advice for you, check yourself before you attempt to catch people out etc.

[shawnkemp804]

Do you think Joyce has bad durability, yes or no?

Joyce has a good level of durability, that is what I am saying 'That is what his performances prove'.

You have no disproved, Joyce's durability 'You are aware of that mate?'.

Now wait a minute, you have just accused me of apparently listening to what other people say and repeating.

But then in your post up above you say this.



You need to check yourself before, you attempt to catch me out. Because it looks like you are the one listening and just repeating what other people say and think 'This statement up above of yours displays that kind of behavior'.

Parker has decked one of the last versions of Derek Chisora multiple times who actually trained to win. For me that is enough evidence and a feat of achievement, which proves that he has a good level of power.

All I was stating in my posts, that Joe Joyce has a good level of durability. I was not championing any other area of his game 'Because I was one of the few posters who saw the danger and was not backing him 100% to beat Zhang'.

Zhang is also a Olympic medalist, and is pushing and going the distance with world level fighters like Hrgovic 'So again, he cannot objectively be a D level fighter mate'.

Note: Just some advice for you, check yourself before you attempt to catch people out etc.

Chisora isn't that good. He loses all the time. Chisora was destroyed by blown up cruiser weight David Haye when Chisora was in his prime. So knocking down Chisora doesn't prove anything. If you can't beat or knock down Chisora it shows you how bad you are.

Also you didn't prove Joyce is durable either. Lol I actually did prove Joyce isn't that durable. He was hurt and stropped by Zhang who couldn't stop 6 low level fighters with his punching power . Joyce was stopped in the first round 3 times as a 27 year old amateur. Your chin doesn't get better with age.

Also how is Hrgovic world level? Hrgovic is a young guy who hasn't done much as a pro either. I can tell you are one of those little kids who don't really watch or know anything about boxing. Every time somebody wins one fight they were world class now right?

So my point stands. Joyce is a D level fighter who hasn't prove anything in his career period. He isn't durable and his chin isn't close to being world class like George Foreman, Oliver McCall, ect. Zhang is a D level fighter. Beating Joyce isn't going to change that fact. Forrest almost stopped Zhang. If Forrest would of had better stamina he would of stopped Zhang.

[Dr. Z]

Zhang could beat Fury. Fury won't be able to clinch him and Zhang has a powerful inside game. Take the fight, or duck him as you did to Usyk.

[Willow The Wisp]

I would be fine with Fury fighting a threat, to be honest. Usyk, Joshua, Hrgovic, Sanchez, Zhang, even Makhmudov.

Fury will probably play safe and fight Ruiz, who is also a legit opponent, but not a threat.

.....That's what Joshua said.

[Willow The Wisp]

Wladimir isn't 6'6 and second Wlad was way past his prime when Fury fought him.

What can you point to that shows Wladimir was past prime when he got schooled by Fury? He had the best run of his career going, from what I saw.

[shawnkemp804]

What can you point to that shows Wladimir was past prime when he got schooled by Fury? He had the best run of his career going, from what I saw.

Lol um you do realize people get older right? If you honestly think a 39 year old boxer is still in their primes then I won't bothering talking boxing to you anymore. Don't message me again. If you do I will just put you on ignore.

[shawnkemp804]

Joe Joyce chin isn't indestructable. But that he beat Dubois, who strickens everyone his gloves touch, Joyce passed the chin check for me.
Dubois even koed his last opponent with one good knee

And who did Dubois ever knockout? It isn't like he is knocking out world class fighters. It is like saying David Rodriguez or Tye Fields are huge punches because they knocked out low level fighters. Whoopity do. Dubois knocked out Kevin Lerina a blown up cruiser weight right? Wait wait, Dubois knocked out Ebenezer Tetteh and Richard Lartey? Yep that clearly proves Dubois is one of the hardest punches in boxing history.