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  • shawnkemp804
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    #51
    Originally posted by champion4ever

    Oh are you referring to that overachieving undersized basketball player? He doesn't count because he lacks the pedigree. He started boxing late in his early 20s.

    Lol Wilder is taller than Zhang and could weight as much if he choose to come in the ring overweight. Also Zhang is 39 and started boxing late as well. Do you even watch boxing or do you just make up stuff you want to believe?

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    • shawnkemp804
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      #52
      Originally posted by Bob

      Just ask Brazeale
      Breazele almost got knockout with one punch by 80 year old Amir Mansour.

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        #53
        Originally posted by jockpunk

        Ok. Well he fought a 6’6 Olympic gold medalist and hall of famer as well. Your point is silly.
        Wladimir isn't 6'6 and second Wlad was way past his prime when Fury fought him.

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        • shawnkemp804
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          #54
          Originally posted by thack
          There is no chance whatsoever that Zhang would be finding Fury any where as easy to hit as Joyce was. Fury would have to be careful with this heavy handed fellow, as would everyone but he would be there to wear Zhang down and stop him as was the plan for Joe.Ruiz is a good fighter but wouldn't have the skills to do to Fury what he did to Joshua . The division is a little sour at the minute with big fights falling through but as Joshua said 'it's all about money' and he's not on his own with these statements .They've all gone Saudi money mad!
          Lol Zhang beat one "known' person in Joyce and you people know act like Zhang is this monster puncher.

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            #55
            Originally posted by shawnkemp804

            Lol Zhang beat one "known' person in Joyce and you people know act like Zhang is this monster puncher.



            beat hrgovic too.


            2 undefeated pro fighters. 1 olympic gold medalist and another silver medalist.



            unlike Deontay Wilder.

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            • shawnkemp804
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              #56
              Originally posted by thack

              If old Arreola can drop Ruiz as he did then Wilder will keep him there.Wilders power is revered from fighters from Foreman to Mike Tyson , don't be fooled by half wits on here, he is the real deal. Fury is at times the biggest plonker there but without doubt the best out there.
              George Foreman never faced Wilder so he doesn't know how hard Wilder punches. Also Foreman's will say nice things about any fighter now days. So who did Wilder ever knockout besides old man Luis Ortiz? Also you do realize Fury also got knocked out by light punchers like Steve Cunnigham a cruiserweight and Nevin Pajkic? So Wilder knocking down Fury doesn't really mean much. Also what did Fury do with his career that would make him great? Run from a washed up Wladimir Klitschko and beat unskilled Wilder?

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                #57
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                Not the same. Wilder is strong but undersized compared to Fury.
                Wilder is lighter than Fury because he chooses to be light. But if you want to use your logic then Fury is undersized compared to Jarrell Miller. Miller is 60 pounds heavier than Fury.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  I am beginning to think Wilder's power is a tad overrated.

                  I don't think Wilder has stopped anybody with Joyce's proven durability.

                  If Joshua from the start of his career, was matched vs all of Wilder's opponents 'They would have very similar KO percentages'.

                  I rate Wilder as a fighter very highly. But all this talk of him being the most powerful puncher in history 'I don't think he has the feats of achievement to quite prove this, but of course Wilder has serious power'.

                  There have been numerous big punchers in Heavyweight history, who were more devastating offensively than Wilder due? To their power having a greater range and variation in the type's of punches being thrown.

                  If Zhang is coming out now and chasing a fight with Fury, well it is most likely team Fury were not considering the Zhang fight.

                  The stage is set for Zhang vs Fury or Ruiz Junior vs Fury 'Those are the two fights that should happen, but will ether of them be made?'.
                  Lol what you say makes no sense. Joyce's proven durability? Joyce has 16 pro bouts. The only "punchers' he faced so far a Daniel Dubois and Zhang. Facing 2 so called hard punchers by the time you are 37 doesn't equate to a great chin. You want to go further? Zhang's punches didn't bother, Eric George, Glenn Thomas, Juan Goode, Rodney Hernandez, and Andri Rudenko. So I guess these guys much have God level chins right? Hell Eric George is 5'9 190 and got knocked out by guys who were 190 pounds or less. So those guys much puncher than Zhang then right? Zhang isn't that good. Joyce is just that bad.

                  Also Joyce was knocked out 3 times as a 27/28 year old amateur. Joyce isn't that durable. Second Wilder doesn't have serious power. Wilder has the power to knockout old men and tomato cans. He has yet to knockout anybody who was known for being elite and durable.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by shawnkemp804

                    Lol what you say makes no sense. Joyce's proven durability? Joyce has 16 pro bouts. The only "punchers' he faced so far a Daniel Dubois and Zhang. Facing 2 so called hard punchers by the time you are 37 doesn't equate to a great chin. You want to go further? Zhang's punches didn't bother, Eric George, Glenn Thomas, Juan Goode, Rodney Hernandez, and Andri Rudenko. So I guess these guys much have God level chins right? Hell Eric George is 5'9 190 and got knocked out by guys who were 190 pounds or less. So those guys much puncher than Zhang then right? Zhang isn't that good. Joyce is just that bad.

                    Also Joyce was knocked out 3 times as a 27/28 year old amateur. Joyce isn't that durable. Second Wilder doesn't have serious power. Wilder has the power to knockout old men and tomato cans. He has yet to knockout anybody who was known for being elite and durable.
                    It makes sense.

                    Dubois and Parker are big punchers.

                    Joyce has technically been fighting professional for more than 16 fights.

                    Joyce was competing in the world boxing series, which was a competition 'That consisted of professionally styled fights'.

                    I personally just think the bombardment Joyce was under vs Parker, proved that he has really good durability.

                    And lets also factored this in? Joyce was not decked by Zhang 'The fight was stopped due to a server injury, again validating Joyce's durability'.

                    For me Joyce has a proven solid level of durability.

                    Note: I was one of the very few posters that was not backing Joyce 100% to beat Zhang.Because whether Joyce has been winning or losing, he has been getting wacked. Joyce was damaged in the aftermath of the Parker fight, I detected this in a few interviews during the aftermath of the fight 'And began to then raise the concern that Joyce by the time he gets his title fight, he might be burnt out'.

                    Although many people at the time of the Parker fight, were praising Joyce's durability 'And comparing him to George Foreman, I never got too carried away' etc.




                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-01-2023, 07:30 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by HeadShots




                      Fury didn't ragdoll anybody. he was embarassed in that fight against a pillow fisted scrub.


                      Fury won't ragdoll ZZ. ZZ bullied Juggernaut. ZZ will land on Fury too and Fury will crumble
                      He literally tossed Wallin all over the ring up until the 12th round where he gassed after losing a ton of blood and chasing Wallin for half the fight.

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