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  • kafkod
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    #41
    Originally posted by jonnyc420
    Idk, Joshua isn't a friend like Scott or Helenius so he may not take a dive. Wilder isn't known for his defense either. I'd give Joshua a pretty good shot. He is better than 95% of Wilder's entire resume.
    AJ is better than anybody Wilder has fought except Fury. He is better than anybody Wilder has beaten, that's for sure.

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      #42
      Originally posted by daggum

      his resume is a billion times better than wilder's so not sure what you are talking about there. he even tried to give wilder 100 million dollars to fight but wilder ran and took less money to fight other guys. joshua is not going to beat everyone out there thats obvious but at least he tries to get it done for the most part. saying joshua is a protected fighter is one thing that is definitely not true. hes not the best but why not give him props for taking risks? risks he didnt have to take given his popularity. he could have had a bum parade like wilders career but he didnt. hes beaten 7 top 10 opponents to wilders 2 and both of wilders were 40 or near 40, and he became champ years after wilder and yet wilder still has that pathetic resume.

      wilder only fought a top boy when he fought fury but fury wasnt a top boy at that time and wilder himself said he was cherry picking a fat rusty fury so he kind of got trapped in his own cherry pick. so when is wilder going to fight a top boy? he didnt for 5 years after becoming champ and its been years since the fury trilogy. seems pretty clear he doesnt want any part of the top guys.
      Wilder has clearly been avoiding risks - which he had a lot of practice doing as WBC "champion" - while waiting for a big money cash-out fight. AJ would give him what he's been waiting for.
      Last edited by kafkod; 04-20-2023, 07:49 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Sparked_26
        The way AJ fights now he's probably right. A confident, aggressive AJ would have taken risks and possibly taken Wilder out.

        But Wilder knocking Usyk out in under 6?

        Wilder wouldn't be able to hit him with a clean right hand for 12 hours. Never mind 12 rounds.
        I think Usyk could literally go 12 rounds with Wilder with his hands tied behind his back. And I mean literally!

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          #44
          Originally posted by shawnkemp804

          The last time Luis Ortiz was 40 was back when Dinosaurs still walked the Earth. Also the pre Andy Ruiz Joshua was better than Fury. Who did Fury beat? A old man Wlad by running. Well Joshua almost got knocked out by a old Wlad.

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            #45
            Originally posted by DeeMoney

            So does having a better resume mean that Joshua is the better fighter or just that he has had better opponents? Should Joshua be a heavy betting favorite because of said resume?

            Or do we feel that sometimes a fighter can be better than his resume? If Wilder were to beat Joshua, does that provide evidence that a fighter can be better than his resume, at least relative to another fighter?

            Not trolling, all legitimate questions.
            We have already seen plenty of evidence of that. The most notable example is Buster Douglas KO'ing an undefeated Mike Tyson.

            AJ has a far better resume than Wilder, but Wilder would definitely be in with a chance of beating him. A 50/50 chance, imo.

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              #46
              Originally posted by sicko
              yeah this version of AJ gets absolutely Floored by Wilder early

              the way he been fighting since Ruiz beat him yeah that doesn't beat Wilder
              AJ looked better in the Usyk rematch than ever before in his career. He was too heavy again vs Franklin, imo. I hope Derek James learned a lesson from that and gets AJ back down in the mid 240lb range, where he was against Usyk

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                #47
                Originally posted by Boxviewer

                I beg to differ, the AJ that fought Usyk II will destroy one trick pony Wilder.
                That was the best ever version of AJ.

                It's a real pity Robert Garcia ran his mouth off to the press and ruined the good work he'd been doing with AJ till then.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by kafkod

                  We have already seen plenty of evidence of that. The most notable example is Buster Douglas KO'ing an undefeated Mike Tyson.

                  AJ has a far better resume than Wilder, but Wilder would definitely be in with a chance of beating him. A 50/50 chance, imo.
                  True, but I think most agree that Douglas' win was an upset. Had they fought that fight 20 times Douglas maybe wins only once.

                  What I am writing is can a fighter have a clearly worse resume than his opponent, yet be better than him? We wouldnt favor Douglas vs Tyson, would we favor Wilder (or hypothetically any fighter) against an opponent with a superior resume; assuming both are still in their relative primes.

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                    #49
                    While this is not news worthy and a no **** type of comment, he's not wrong. I think Wilder would send AJ to another multiverse.

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                      #50
                      Wilder-Joshua, if it happens, will be a very competitive and tough fight both. The fight can go either way but I do not imagine it going the distance. I reckon both would go on the offensive and try to knock each other out...AJ because he won't be able to dodge him for 12 rounds and Wilder because he loses on points if it goes the distance. And while Wilder can pack a punch, his own punch resistance may be constantly going downhill as he ages. Age will favor Joshua.

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