Why do people keep bringing up David Morrell? He's 8-0...

[sicko]

"He Only 8-0" well then that should be a easy win for the more experience fighters right? WRONG!

Fighters and their teams are much smarter than we give them credit for word gets around real fast in boxing or whatever who is really good and is dangerous and who is potential threat

nobody is ducking him I don't think just a VERY High Risk with Low Reward at this very moment I would much rather see him vs Benavidez in like some Unification and if you're PBC no you don't let them Cancel each other out you wait and see what Canelo does if Canelo drops then Morrell WBA and Benavidez gets the WBC then you do Unification and now the fight is bigger with more Value

[garfios]

"He Only 8-0" well then that should be a easy win for the more experience fighters right? WRONG!

Fighters and their teams are much smarter than we give them credit for word gets around real fast in boxing or whatever who is really good and is dangerous and who is potential threat

nobody is ducking him I don't think just a VERY High Risk with Low Reward at this very moment I would much rather see him vs Benavidez in like some Unification and if you're PBC no you don't let them Cancel each other out you wait and see what Canelo does if Canelo drops then Morrell WBA and Benavidez gets the WBC then you do Unification and now the fight is bigger with more Value

The funny thing is, the same people that are saying he only have "8", were the same saying the was going to lose in his third fight against Allen. Those same were predicting a ko loss by the hands of Aidos, the same guy that have koed Allen, you know, the triangle theory. Since his second fight Morrell Jr has face nothing but boxers with winning records, three of them undefeated. I ask them to find a SMW boxer, past or present with that kind resume in eight fights. Still waiting.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Do you know who benavidez fought in the first eight fights? Don't answer, I'll tell you, The combined record was, 3W-13L, Somehow he picked it up on his next 8 fights, the combined record was, 117-58, so let's do the math 16 fights the opponents were 120W-71L against Morell jr. opponents record, not close don't you think so? Now he last 11 fights he's been tearing up the cover, lemiux, gavril(twice), ellis, angulo, love, who else belongs in that murderous row? Oh, plant. Common man, who else Morell jr is going to fight?

People criticising Morrell’s resume are crazy, he’s 8-0 and only 25, he’s been matched far more aggressively than he needed to be. It’s not like he turned over late like Joe Joyce so had to be matched aggressively.

Speaking of murders, you murdered the OP in his own thread.

[War Room]

Do you know who benavidez fought in the first eight fights?

I don't care, I wasn't watching him then.

Don't answer, I'll tell you, The combined record was, 3W-13L, Somehow he picked it up on his next 8 fights, the combined record was, 117-58, so let's do the math 16 fights the opponents were 120W-71L against Morell jr. opponents record, not close don't you think so? Now he last 11 fights he's been tearing up the cover, lemiux, gavril(twice), ellis, angulo, love, who else belongs in that murderous row? Oh, plant. Common man, who else Morell jr is going to fight?

How I know YDKSAB =---> combined records are meaningless. One of the weakest metrics I've ever seen.

A fighters 1st 15 fights are meant to get him acclimated to the pro's, by 20 fights a title comes into play.

There are a lot of Reggie Stricklands out there used for padding and a lot of average Joes can get to 20-0. Look at Lennox Allen on Morrells record, 20-0-1 when they fought. Now he's 20-2 and will probably end up like 25-14 before too long. Combined records are meaningless.

What a fighter is doing at his 8th fight; unless it's some once in a lifetime Loma type scenerio, I'm not really paying attention unless there was an extreme buzz coming out of the amateurs which I don't follow anymore because the amateurs suck. It's not like Morrell was a superstar amateur. 130-2, great amateur record, but it's a pretty common pedigree in boxing. Shawn Porter was 274-14, nobody was drooling when he was 8-0. Does Morrell have gold medals, no.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Cuban professional athletes should be praise, not hate. They don't understand how hard it is for them just to defect, and is harder to adapt to a new culture and country, without family support. Be safe brother.

I don’t expect people to know what Cubans go through if they’re not Cuban. We know because they’re our people. I’m ignorant to quite a bit of geopolitical situations around the world. The average American doesn’t know much beyond their front door, anyway. But yeah, our athletes must endure a lot more difficulty than most. I’ve always wondered how much greater our presence in professional sports would be if not for the embargo. Oh well, that’s life.

[garfios]

I don't care, I wasn't watching him then.



How I know YDKSAB =---> combined records are meaningless. One of the weakest metrics I've ever seen.

A fighters 1st 15 fights are meant to get him acclimated to the pro's, by 20 fights a title comes into play.

There are a lot of Reggie Stricklands out there used for padding and a lot of average Joes can get to 20-0. Look at Lennox Allen on Morrells record, 20-0-1 when they fought. Now he's 20-2 and will probably end up like 25-14 before too long. Combined records are meaningless.

What a fighter is doing at his 8th fight; unless it's some once in a lifetime Loma type scenerio, I'm not really paying attention unless there was an extreme buzz coming out of the amateurs which I don't follow anymore because the amateurs suck. It's not like Morrell was a superstar amateur. 130-2, great amateur record, but it's a pretty common pedigree in boxing. Shawn Porter was 274-14, nobody was drooling when he was 8-0. Does Morrell have gold medals, no.

Thanks God he doesn't have a gold medal, that would mean he spent too much time in the amateurs. What he has is a lot of fights against his countrymen. Also, the combined records mean a lot, it is not the same 3w13l, than 139wl16., especially if in those 8 fights, three were undefeated. What it means is that the 8 fighters, with 136 wins and only 16 loses, were better than the 8 cab drivers with 3 wins and 13 loses. By the way, some are more ready than others, there's not a manual that say you need to fight 25 times to fight for a belt. In boxing quality is better than quantity, you learn more, and your body is fresher, you don't have to go through the rigors of training, diet, running sparring so many times. By the way, it is not how they end up, is how they were when they fought. Henry Armstrong got knock out in his first fight, if it was you looking at his future, you'd say that he will have ended up 2-20.

[War Room]

Also, the combined records means a lot

It doesn't though. It's a shithaus metric, facts. Keep saying it's worth something all you want doesn't mean it is.

[garfios]

It doesn't though. It's a shithaus metric, facts. Keep saying it's worth something all you want doesn't mean it is.

It doesn't mean anything to you because it doesn't fit your narrative and agenda.
erasmo mendoza debut vs yendris rodriguez 2-6
edgar galvan 0-5-0 vs quinton rankin 15-6-2
omar auspiro 1-1-0 vs lennox allen 20-0-1
arturo martinez debut vs Mike Gavronski 26-3-1
erik revueltas 0-1-0 vs mario caceres 12-0-0
jairo dolores debut vs alantez fox 28-2-1
luis hernandez 1-0-0 vs kalvin henderson 15-1-0
azmat 1-6-2 vs Aidos16-0-0
There's no way that you can dismiss the combined record, nor the individual record. If you match those boxers against each other, they would do the same thing
benavidez did to them. And benavidez would not look the same againts Morell jr competition.

[_Rexy_]

I don't care, I wasn't watching him then.



How I know YDKSAB =---> combined records are meaningless. One of the weakest metrics I've ever seen.

A fighters 1st 15 fights are meant to get him acclimated to the pro's, by 20 fights a title comes into play.

There are a lot of Reggie Stricklands out there used for padding and a lot of average Joes can get to 20-0. Look at Lennox Allen on Morrells record, 20-0-1 when they fought. Now he's 20-2 and will probably end up like 25-14 before too long. Combined records are meaningless.

What a fighter is doing at his 8th fight; unless it's some once in a lifetime Loma type scenerio, I'm not really paying attention unless there was an extreme buzz coming out of the amateurs which I don't follow anymore because the amateurs suck. It's not like Morrell was a superstar amateur. 130-2, great amateur record, but it's a pretty common pedigree in boxing. Shawn Porter was 274-14, nobody was drooling when he was 8-0. Does Morrell have gold medals, no.

Porter wasn’t 274-14 in the Cuban system though

[garfios]

I don't care, I wasn't watching him then.



How I know YDKSAB =---> combined records are meaningless. One of the weakest metrics I've ever seen.

A fighters 1st 15 fights are meant to get him acclimated to the pro's, by 20 fights a title comes into play.

There are a lot of Reggie Stricklands out there used for padding and a lot of average Joes can get to 20-0. Look at Lennox Allen on Morrells record, 20-0-1 when they fought. Now he's 20-2 and will probably end up like 25-14 before too long. Combined records are meaningless.

What a fighter is doing at his 8th fight; unless it's some once in a lifetime Loma type scenerio, I'm not really paying attention unless there was an extreme buzz coming out of the amateurs which I don't follow anymore because the amateurs suck. It's not like Morrell was a superstar amateur. 130-2, great amateur record, but it's a pretty common pedigree in boxing. Shawn Porter was 274-14, nobody was drooling when he was 8-0. Does Morrell have gold medals, no.

Here's the record of shawn porter opponents, with eight fights. 54W-99L, of course, nobody was drooling. And by your account he has double the fights Morell jr in the amateurs. Stop this nonsense about metrics and combined records don't mean anything, everything you do means something.