James Toney vs Canelo ? (Prime for Prime )

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  • Hustle
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    #31
    Originally posted by HeadShots


    Toney isn't nearly as quick as Floyd.

    He's more Vicious than floyd

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    • HeadShots
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      #32
      Originally posted by Hustle

      He's more Vicious than floyd

      speed is everything vs Canelo.


      the only way to beat Canelo is being faster. FMW and Bivol.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #33
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        You’re doing it again. Why do you put random quotation marks on random sentences for no reason? Is English your first language?

        Canelo has shown no weakness at all in durability. Canelo never been dropped. Toney got dropped at 160 and 168.

        He’s not superior on offence, and he’s not superior in defence.

        Stamina you can argue. But that’s it really.
        A non-big puncher at 147 pounds, Floyd Mayweather Junior was able to make Alvarez extremely hesitant moving forward 'This to me shows that his durability is not as great as people make out'.

        James Toney has competed at Heavyweight, regardless of whether the Heavyweights were monster punchers or not 'The fighters in that division hit with considerable force, and on top of this? Have a brute strength Alvarez has never competed against'.

        For me James Toney's durability overall is more proven.

        You only have to watch each fighter fight, whether that be actual fights or highlight video's 'Toney offense and combination punch ability is again, a mark superior to Alvarez's'.

        Overall as I have said before, both fighters skill for skill are very close. Both fighters excel in the same area's of their game 'But when you honestly compare both fighters, James Toney is just that much better at what he does'.

        Alvarez is not setting a pace that will bother Toney, his movement and speed is also not enough to off set Toney 'So each fighters essentially will go head to head in the area's where they excel'.

        And in those area's James Toney is just the better more proven fighter consistently against better competition.

        I believe, I have stated all that I wanted to say on this particular topic.
        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-13-2023, 05:05 AM.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #34
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

          A non-big puncher at 147 pounds, Floyd Mayweather Junior was able to make Alvarez extremely hesitant moving forward 'This to me shows that his durability is not as great as people make out'.

          James Toney has competed at Heavyweight, regardless of whether the Heavyweights were monster punchers or not 'The fighters in that division hit with considerable force, and on top of this? Have a brute strength Alvarez has never competed against'.

          For me James Toney's durability overall is more proven.

          You only have to watch each fighter fight, whether that be actual fights or highlight video's 'Toney offense and combination punch ability is again, a mark superior to Alvarez's'.

          Overall as I have said before, both fighters skill for skill are very close. Both fighters excel in the same area's of their game 'But when you honestly compare both fighters, James Toney is just that much better at what he does'.

          Alvarez is not setting a pace that will bother Toney, his movement and speed is also not enough to off set Toney 'So each fighters essentially will go head to head in the area's where they excel'.

          And in those area's James Toney is just the better more proven fighter consistently against better competition.

          I believe, I have stated all that I wanted to say on this particular topic.
          ...Why do you keep putting random quotation marks on random sentences for no reason? Are you aware you do that?

          Mayweather and Toney are polar opposites as fighters. Mayweather has fast feet and good footwork, two things Canelo has a weakness to. Toney has slow feet and poor footwork. So that example is moot.

          Toney "competing at Heavyweight" means nothing. His run there was poor and he beat no one of any note. He was dropped at 160 and 168, Canelo has never been dropped. So there's no evidence at all he's more durable than Canelo.

          Toney isn't "that much better" like you've just claimed. He's just not. For starters Canelo is way more consistent. He had a good jab which Toney is very susceptible to and also a good right hook to the body with Toney is susceptible too. There's almost no area's Toney is superior to Canelo (and vice versa)
          Last edited by IronDanHamza; 04-13-2023, 03:02 PM.

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