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  • The Big Dunn
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    #51
    Originally posted by TDLand

    No. No. No. You are making up facts. Tell me, before Loma was promoted to Franchise, was a Mando ordered? Tell me, before Loma was promoted to Franchise, could a Mando be ordered? The answer is No, in both cases. Why? Undisputed has priority over Mando. You really think Sueileman was going to order the Mando? He never was, because he never could.
    Dude he dropped the belt. Then lied to Fat Dan that he didnt know.

    Come on. Hold Loma accountable as you would anyone that drops a belt. This was after he was
    quoted that being undisputed champ was his goal.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #52
      Originally posted by TDLand

      You are. For lacking clarity. Loma was promoted to Franchise. He didn't drop the belt persay. He took an upgrade to it. Regardless and this is the clarity portion. No mandatory was ordered. Why? Because Loma was eying the fourth belt. Rules state undisputed has precedence over any mando. A Mando was never ordered because it couldn't. Loma getting Franchise was not avoiding a Mando. A Mando could not be called.
      You are giving him every benefit of the doubt as a fan. He asked to be franchise knowing Haney was about to win the eliminator.

      Come on dude. Haney has done nothing but try to dight Loma as early as possible.

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      • SteelFist01
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        #53
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        All Haney has done is try to fight Loma as eay as possible. Loma did everything to move away from that fight.

        This is going to be one of those cases where fans that dont like haney lower this win because Loma was old, but hold nothing against Loma for dropping the belt and avoiding him when he did.

        Whose the real punk here?
        So, you are saying that Loma ducked Haney before, but yet here he is fighting him when a lot of people apparently think that he's on the decline, while Haney seems to be settling into his prime. How does that make any sense?

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #54
          Originally posted by SteelFist01

          So, you are saying that Loma ducked Haney before, but yet here he is fighting him when a lot of people apparently think that he's on the decline, while Haney seems to be settling into his prime. How does that make any sense?
          Ducking is a childish term. I didnt use it.

          It makes perfect sense from a financial perspective.

          Haney is no easy win like Crolla was. If he was, Loma wouldve dusted him off for a quick payday just as he did Crolla.

          Had he fought Haney, hed risk losing and then losing the Teo payday without belts.

          The war was unexpected. That is why Loma is so much older now. That isnt Haneys fault. He tried to fight Loma long before the war.

          Haney has done everything we say we want boxers to do. Its fine if you like Loma more than him or are not a fan of Haneys at all.

          But he isnt the reason for this.

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          • SteelFist01
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            #55
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            Ducking is a childish term. I didnt use it.

            It makes perfect sense from a financial perspective.

            Haney is no easy win like Crolla was. If he was, Loma wouldve dusted him off for a quick payday just as he did Crolla.

            Had he fought Haney, hed risk losing and then losing the Teo payday without belts.

            The war was unexpected. That is why Loma is so much older now. That isnt Haneys fault. He tried to fight Loma long before the war.

            Haney has done everything we say we want boxers to do. Its fine if you like Loma more than him or are not a fan of Haneys at all.

            But he isnt the reason for this.
            Well I guess we'll see who's the better fighter on May 20th...

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #56
              Originally posted by SteelFist01

              Well I guess we'll see who's the better fighter on May 20th...
              Absolutely. I will give Loma all credit if he wins.

              Just hope if Haney wins, we dont get a bunch of garbage like after the Teo fight.

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              • Apollo7
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                #57
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                That is revisionist. He dropped the belt to avoid having to make the mando against Haney because a loss wouldve meant no Teo unification.

                Now he’s fighting Haney because he lost to Teo unexpectedly and then the war happened. In the interim, Haney got all the belts. So he cant avoid him anymore.
                How is it revisionist? It's just the facts. Loma fought a unification against a more credible opponent. That fight was for the #1 spot in the division. Haney was a completely unproven nobody at that point. You're not fooling anybody with your revisionist bs.

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                • Hustle
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by SteelFist01

                  So, you are saying that Loma ducked Haney before, but yet here he is fighting him when a lot of people apparently think that he's on the decline, while Haney seems to be settling into his prime. How does that make any sense?
                  Loma is forced to fight Haney now. It's the only way to undisputed. Back then loma could use the Haney is a nobody excuse that you just used.


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                  • Murray Kelm
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                    #59
                    People are putting Loma in a no win situation, if he would have fought and beat Haney before the Teo fight he would have been accused of taking advantage of a young green fighter.

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                    • Jsmooth9876
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                      #60
                      This dude talks a lot for a guy who has just a slightly better resume than Tank Davis lol

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