List of excuses when Loma beats Haney

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  • buddyr
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
    I think Loma will be too much for Haney. Haney hasn't shown the ability to beat Loma yet. As far as excuses, people always come up with something.
    I'm going to be bumping this post after the fight.

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    • alexnation
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      #22
      Originally posted by Offensive Wizardry

      he fought teo. now he's fighting haney.

      what's your problem?

      has haney fought anybody as good as teo?
      You misunderstood my post. Re-read it

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      • MONGOOSE66
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        #23
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

        There's a wide variety of techniques to clinch work WITHIN boxing that are legal. Holding is illegal under the Marquess of Queensbury rules and I believe in the amateurs, but the unified rules only specifically prohibit holding the head and "aggressive wrestling," etc. Otherwise there's very lenient rules, and referees are given lots of leeway to let fighters fight out of the clinch, etc. Obviously they need to break when told, and there's lots of rules relating to the break, but those wouldn't even exist if tying up was illegal. Why do you think you see it in most fights?

        Mainly the ref will break if there's not sufficient action or it looks like there won't be. Loma is expert at keeping things going inside when it's advantageous for him, eg he's got dominant head/body position, and when it's not, and he wants to create separation, he'll drop his weight down with his arms up and put all the weight on his opponent's biceps, and look like he's actively trying to pull free, which will bring an immediate call for a break. He'll usually turn the clinch so he's got his back to the ref so the ref can clearly see he's trying to pull free. Every fighter Loma has faced in the pro ranks has tried to tie up at some point. Haney's hugging isn't going to be anything different. And I really doubt Haney has seen anything like what Loma does in the clinch.
        I have no problem with holding when it isn’t used EVERTIME an opponent tries to get off. Thats why boxers are taught head & foot movement.
        Hitting then grabbing to prevent counters is horrible to watch. Haney is horrible and boring to watch when he does that. He’s too fast to need that crap. He has that size advantage for WHAT?
        He never uses it. He always fights like he’s scared and small. Not every-time but you know what I mean.

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        • Tony Trick-Pony
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          #24
          Originally posted by buddyr

          I'm going to be bumping this post after the fight.
          I'm so scared!

          Don't!

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          • crimsonfalcon07
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            #25
            Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

            I have no problem with holding when it isn’t used EVERTIME an opponent tries to get off. Thats why boxers are taught head & foot movement.
            Hitting then grabbing to prevent counters is horrible to watch. Haney is horrible and boring to watch when he does that. He’s too fast to need that crap. He has that size advantage for WHAT?
            He never uses it. He always fights like he’s scared and small. Not every-time but you know what I mean.
            Sure do, and I don't disagree. My point has always been that there's techniques to counter that style that Loma is very good at, maybe the best in the world for active boxers, that aren't commonly seen, and I'm quite sure Haney won't have faced in the ring. He can watch tape, but when it comes to clinch, that's all feel and timing, and he's going to have to adapt on the fly. If he's going to depend on the hug, Loma will light him up and sap his strength. You can be sure that Papachenko has watched all the tape on Haney and knows that tendency.

            In contrast, Loma is very familiar with people trying to clinch him, because that's the resort that all of his opponents end up with at some point.

            I think Haney's jab is going to be the main thing for Loma to deal with, not the hugging. But we'll see soon enough. Fascinating fight.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #26
              Originally posted by alexnation
              So when Loma was the champ, a specific group of seemingly bipolar people were screaming that he was avoiding Teo because he would be carried out on stretchers. The injured Loma took the fight, didn't get battered (yes, he lost on points but still looked better than Lopez). Now these people are foaming that he took the Teo fight to duck Haney.

              What's on the list of excuses when the one dimensional Haney gets schooled by Loma?
              You’re making excuses for Loma losing in this post. Haney fans should be allowed to make excuses just like you.

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              • Lance98
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                #27
                Loma fans already have a list of built in excuses when devin beats loma, and I don't see any devin haney fans coming up with a bunch of built in excuses.

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                • Szef
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Lance98
                  Loma fans already have a list of built in excuses when devin beats loma, and I don't see any devin haney fans coming up with a bunch of built in excuses.
                  Probably because Haney doesn't have any fans.

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                  • Flickergrab98
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                    Haney better have better luck holding than Nakatani and Commey did... Loma is very good against people who try to clinch him. He's scored knockdowns when people tried to hold him. If that's his strategy to win, that makes it more likely for Loma to win. Just hope they both make it to the ring uninjured.
                    I hope you’re right, crimson. Rooting for Loma all the way

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                    • Silence
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                      #30
                      "Haney's GF got ****** by Pique and then she cheated him with Guardiola. He is soo sad tonight."

                      That would be decent excuse for the ugly MF.

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